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Old 01-27-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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After spending three years in Fox Valley WI, we had enough. My wife and I actively searched for work for over a year before we finally got positions "back west". Our reason for leaving was simply this - culture shock. Being world travelers and having both lived internationally, we've been pretty good at connecting with diverse and foreign cultures in our past; we had no idea we would be such black sheep in our own country. We strongly considered moving from Neenah and enduring the commute from Tosa or Madison, just so we could be around "our people", but we decided that is just too much of a commitment when we ultimately wanted to be "west".

While we got along well with our neighbors, we found it impossible to break into the social scene. Considering we are not heavy drinkers, we just didn't jive with the alcoholic culture of Fox Valley. Nor are we Catholic, hunters, or ice fishermen. We considered boating and kayaking, but we were appalled by the lack of cleanliness of the local rivers and lakes (we understand, they are working rivers). Politically, we are independent but lean left; again, not the norm. Our only social outlet was our co-workers who were good, genuine people.

That said, we made the best of it and have fond memories and made a few good friends. Here is a list of what else we loved about living in WI:
  • Cost of living
  • Fall - such beautiful leaves.
  • Madison/Milwaukee/Chicago
  • Door County - especially Rock Island
  • 4th of July
  • Bloody Mary's
  • Ruby Coffee Roasters

While living in WI, we discovered many surprising things:
  • There are 132 billboards between Neenah and Fond du Lac (each way). Many have conflicting messages (Religious Message, Porn Store Advertising, Hillary will take your guns, etc...).
  • There is a jewelry store where you can buy your girl an engagement ring and get a free gun.
  • Wisconsin has the 5th most registered sex offenders out of all states in the union.
  • "Shining for Deer" is a thing.
  • You will get laughed at for mowing your lawn with an electric lawn mower.

If you're considering moving to Fox Valley from more liberal parts of the country, you will likely experience the same culture shock we did. If you do, we wish you the best of luck connecting to this truly unique part of the world, and that your experience is much better than we endured.

PS - we're now happily settled and thriving near Seattle, WA in the great PNW.
Glad you guys relocated somewhere more appropriate. I read your first post in the thread and wondered how anyone looking for a vibe such as the one you described in SF could find that in the Fox Valley, birthplace of McCarthyism.

You did not do enough research.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Your preliminary choice (Wauwatosa) was a really good one. Had you moved there the story would've been way different. The 58 minute commute might have worn you down but you could have either found a job in Metro Milwaukee during that time or moved a little closer to work.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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After spending three years in Fox Valley WI, we had enough. My wife and I actively searched for work for over a year before we finally got positions "back west". Our reason for leaving was simply this - culture shock. Being world travelers and having both lived internationally, we've been pretty good at connecting with diverse and foreign cultures in our past; we had no idea we would be such black sheep in our own country. We strongly considered moving from Neenah and enduring the commute from Tosa or Madison, just so we could be around "our people", but we decided that is just too much of a commitment when we ultimately wanted to be "west".

While we got along well with our neighbors, we found it impossible to break into the social scene. Considering we are not heavy drinkers, we just didn't jive with the alcoholic culture of Fox Valley. Nor are we Catholic, hunters, or ice fishermen. We considered boating and kayaking, but we were appalled by the lack of cleanliness of the local rivers and lakes (we understand, they are working rivers). Politically, we are independent but lean left; again, not the norm. Our only social outlet was our co-workers who were good, genuine people.

That said, we made the best of it and have fond memories and made a few good friends. Here is a list of what else we loved about living in WI:
  • Cost of living
  • Fall - such beautiful leaves.
  • Madison/Milwaukee/Chicago
  • Door County - especially Rock Island
  • 4th of July
  • Bloody Mary's
  • Ruby Coffee Roasters

While living in WI, we discovered many surprising things:
  • There are 132 billboards between Neenah and Fond du Lac (each way). Many have conflicting messages (Religious Message, Porn Store Advertising, Hillary will take your guns, etc...).
  • There is a jewelry store where you can buy your girl an engagement ring and get a free gun.
  • Wisconsin has the 5th most registered sex offenders out of all states in the union.
  • "Shining for Deer" is a thing.
  • You will get laughed at for mowing your lawn with an electric lawn mower.

If you're considering moving to Fox Valley from more liberal parts of the country, you will likely experience the same culture shock we did. If you do, we wish you the best of luck connecting to this truly unique part of the world, and that your experience is much better than we endured.

PS - we're now happily settled and thriving near Seattle, WA in the great PNW.
I mean, you moved to a smaller town after living in a big city, what did you expect? If you moved to Milwaukee, you would've had a totally different experience. Enjoy Seattle.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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After spending three years in Fox Valley WI, we had enough. My wife and I actively searched for work for over a year before we finally got positions "back west". Our reason for leaving was simply this - culture shock. Being world travelers and having both lived internationally, we've been pretty good at connecting with diverse and foreign cultures in our past; we had no idea we would be such black sheep in our own country. We strongly considered moving from Neenah and enduring the commute from Tosa or Madison, just so we could be around "our people", but we decided that is just too much of a commitment when we ultimately wanted to be "west".

While we got along well with our neighbors, we found it impossible to break into the social scene. Considering we are not heavy drinkers, we just didn't jive with the alcoholic culture of Fox Valley. Nor are we Catholic, hunters, or ice fishermen. We considered boating and kayaking, but we were appalled by the lack of cleanliness of the local rivers and lakes (we understand, they are working rivers). Politically, we are independent but lean left; again, not the norm. Our only social outlet was our co-workers who were good, genuine people.

That said, we made the best of it and have fond memories and made a few good friends. Here is a list of what else we loved about living in WI:
  • Cost of living
  • Fall - such beautiful leaves.
  • Madison/Milwaukee/Chicago
  • Door County - especially Rock Island
  • 4th of July
  • Bloody Mary's
  • Ruby Coffee Roasters

While living in WI, we discovered many surprising things:
  • There are 132 billboards between Neenah and Fond du Lac (each way). Many have conflicting messages (Religious Message, Porn Store Advertising, Hillary will take your guns, etc...).
  • There is a jewelry store where you can buy your girl an engagement ring and get a free gun.
  • Wisconsin has the 5th most registered sex offenders out of all states in the union.
  • "Shining for Deer" is a thing.
  • You will get laughed at for mowing your lawn with an electric lawn mower.

If you're considering moving to Fox Valley from more liberal parts of the country, you will likely experience the same culture shock we did. If you do, we wish you the best of luck connecting to this truly unique part of the world, and that your experience is much better than we endured.

PS - we're now happily settled and thriving near Seattle, WA in the great PNW.
Glad to hear you're happily settled! So sorry that Neenah didn't work out for you and your wife. I wish I had known you both... how you describe yourselves sounds familiar to me. I don't watch Packer games, don't drink, don't hunt, etc. I was born and raised in Wisconsin, but I must be missing something in my DNA! When I first moved to Fond du Lac, it took me a good 5-7 years before I found "my people"- the people who loved travel, art, music, and books. But, they're out there, I swear.

I hope that you will visit Wisconsin again some day down the road and have at least a few good memories of it... have a Bloody Mary on the 4th of July in Door County, maybe? Sometimes it's worth taking a leap and trying something new just from the experience you gain from it, right? (The billboard situation you mentioned is ridiculous. I agree wholeheartedly. It is a blight on the landscape, to say the least.) Thanks for the update and I wish you the very best in your new location.
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:28 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Are the lakes and rivers that bad up in that area? I mostly did my outdoors stuff in the driftless and central sands regions and didn't see that issue, well, the cranberry discharge stuff wasn't good, but not visibly polluted that it would affect me kayaking.
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Old 02-01-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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Hi there. We have recently moved to Port Washington and are enjoying the Ozaukee cities: Port, Grafton and Cedarburg. Nice cafes, restaurants, pubs, parks etc. and 30 mins to downtown Milwaukee. Haven't been to West Bend yet but as it's only a short drive from Cedarburg I would see it as a tempting option. (and I've heard a positive opinion of it from a resident who commutes from it to Port W). I know Ozaukee Co has a reputation for suburban conservatism but we have met new arrivals/young families like ourselves who don't fit that definition.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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After spending three years in Fox Valley WI, we had enough. …..

This post gave me a good laugh...Remember that the snobbish disdain you hold for the typical Badger is probably countered by the opinion they hold of you-- although not snobbish, but more one of pity.


Do you really need a companion to enjoy reading, looking at art or listening to music? Aren't those things done on the individual level, and place is irrelevant?


WI was settled and is still inhabited by those who only consider themselves worthwhile if they provide for themselves-- the rugged individualist types. They readily lend a helping hand but only ask for one with reluctance. Their recreational activities tend to be outdoors & active. Remember Mozart's retort to the authorities in Amadeus when they forbade him to write an opera in the vernacular?


While WI may get a lot of snow, it's probably not a good place for a Snowflake. If your idea of fun is looking at a painting of a can of Tomato Soup, then it was probably stupid to move to WI in the first place.


Best of luck in finding happiness. De gustibus non disputandum est.

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Old 02-01-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Are the lakes and rivers that bad up in that area? I mostly did my outdoors stuff in the driftless and central sands regions and didn't see that issue, well, the cranberry discharge stuff wasn't good, but not visibly polluted that it would affect me kayaking.
I read that part of the OP’s comments as more of an observation than a complaint.

Heck, I kayak in the Chicago river, even after spending a lot of time previously in and near generally pristine WI bodies of water.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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After spending three years in Fox Valley WI, we had enough. My wife and I actively searched for work for over a year before we finally got positions "back west". Our reason for leaving was simply this - culture shock. Being world travelers and having both lived internationally, we've been pretty good at connecting with diverse and foreign cultures in our past; we had no idea we would be such black sheep in our own country. We strongly considered moving from Neenah and enduring the commute from Tosa or Madison, just so we could be around "our people", but we decided that is just too much of a commitment when we ultimately wanted to be "west".

While we got along well with our neighbors, we found it impossible to break into the social scene. Considering we are not heavy drinkers, we just didn't jive with the alcoholic culture of Fox Valley. Nor are we Catholic, hunters, or ice fishermen. We considered boating and kayaking, but we were appalled by the lack of cleanliness of the local rivers and lakes (we understand, they are working rivers). Politically, we are independent but lean left; again, not the norm. Our only social outlet was our co-workers who were good, genuine people.

That said, we made the best of it and have fond memories and made a few good friends. Here is a list of what else we loved about living in WI:
  • Cost of living
  • Fall - such beautiful leaves.
  • Madison/Milwaukee/Chicago
  • Door County - especially Rock Island
  • 4th of July
  • Bloody Mary's
  • Ruby Coffee Roasters

While living in WI, we discovered many surprising things:
  • There are 132 billboards between Neenah and Fond du Lac (each way). Many have conflicting messages (Religious Message, Porn Store Advertising, Hillary will take your guns, etc...).
  • There is a jewelry store where you can buy your girl an engagement ring and get a free gun.
  • Wisconsin has the 5th most registered sex offenders out of all states in the union.
  • "Shining for Deer" is a thing.
  • You will get laughed at for mowing your lawn with an electric lawn mower.

If you're considering moving to Fox Valley from more liberal parts of the country, you will likely experience the same culture shock we did. If you do, we wish you the best of luck connecting to this truly unique part of the world, and that your experience is much better than we endured.

PS - we're now happily settled and thriving near Seattle, WA in the great PNW.
We, would have been a brutal commute in winter.

Sorry it did not work out. Reading your reasons for leaving reminds me why I do not miss that crap one bit. Dispite having been born, raised and lived for many decades in rural Wisconsin. We find rural Western Washington more fitting. (Way less political tension)

Oh yes. On water quality. Back in the 80's we always called lake Winnebago.... LAKE WINNESEPTIC... For a reason!
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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WI was settled and is still inhabited by those who only consider themselves worthwhile if they provide for themselves-- the rugged individualist types. They readily lend a helping hand but only ask for one with reluctance.


Wise words. I wasn't born in WI, and lived all over USA from most liberal places to most conservative. I found that if you're self-sufficient, and don't need other people for self-validation or to be entertained, then you can enjoy any place. And interestingly, if you have to offer something positive to other people, you will find friends anywhere...
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