Need Friendly Town that's Racially Tolerant (Milwaukee, Kenosha: loans, relocating, income)

[Cain]

So supposedly by default your color or ethnicity makes you predeposed to violent crime? You definitely need to get out more Considering my color, better watch out, I have this uncontrollable urge to commit violent crime, I guess...

Oh, and I said bad trailer areas (ie crime ridden), not run down trailers.

But then again who knows, maybe they are predispositioned to living that way since the majority are white?? :rolls eyes:

[quickdraw]

Originally Posted by Cain

So supposedly by default your color or ethnicity makes you predeposed to violent crime? You definitely need to get out more Considering my color, better watch out, I have this uncontrollable urge to commit violent crime, I guess...

Oh, and I said bad trailer areas (ie crime ridden), not run down trailers.

But then again who knows, maybe they are predispositioned to living that way since the majority are white?? :rolls eyes:

Check the stats, it's a fact. And if the US is too blurried to make a study, just look at Europe and Africa.

[Wellstone]

depends on what you mean by affordable. by far the best place to live in wisconsin is madison / middleton. that is going to be the most accepting in terms of racial tolerance. it is also the most expensive in the state, but depending on what housing costs you are used to it may not be that bad. it is nowhere near that of chicago or the twin cities.

STAY AWAY from places like green bay, appleton, suburban milwaukee, wausau. a good rule of thumb is: if it is east of highway 51 (I-39) be careful, that is where most of the far right wing wacko bigots reside. another good rule of thumb is to stay away from areas that are predominantly republican, as indicated in this map. CNN.com Election 2004

i'd also recommend the twin cities as it is a much more progressive area much like madison. saint paul is a very accepting town.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by maevel

Hi All
We're white parents to 6 black children and looking for a quiet, clean place to raise them. We've heard WI is a great place to live. Any suggestions for wonderful, tolerant, FRIENDLY places to live that are affordable? Any places to stay away from?
Thanks,
Maeve in Olympia, WA

It depends. From what I have heard, Madison should be very nice. I have heard some less than rave reviews about Milwaukee's suburbs. I would be careful though.

[Milwaukee Ronnie]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

From what I have heard, Madison should be very nice.

Then clearly you have never heard from anyone who is a person of color and lives in Madison.

My advice is this: log off this forum, spend some time in the places you're interested in, and talk to all kinds of people, both Black and White.

You'll find that no place is totally ideal, but some might be a better fit for you than others.

[Trabbz]

Originally Posted by quickdraw

Big difference between run down trailers and violent crime

Crime has a direct link to poverty and socioeconomic class and nothing to do with race. I am white and I can say you can blame your white ancestors to a higher crime rate with minorities. Blacks still have a 3 times higher poverty rate than whites. Go to a poor white trailer park and there you can find plenty of drugs, domestic disputes, and violent crimes. This is no different than if you were to drive through a poor predominantly black neighborhood. NO DIFFERENT. And do me a favor, if you have never even had a black friend or even talked to a black person, than you have no right to judge. I have many black friends and I do not know one who sells drugs or has been involved in a violent crime. All of them have jobs and make their living just as any normal American does. As a resident of the Tampa/St. Pete metro area I can say there are high crime areas that are predominantly black, but so are the poor white trailor parks in the area. Recently at a trailor park in Pasco County a nazi flag waving white supremecist murdered his white 15 year old neighbor boy. Why? Because his mother was dating a black man. Many many crimes here take place by white people in trailor parks. All you have to do is watch the news. Open your eyes people!

To answer to the original post.....I wouldn't worry too much about racism in most areas of Wisconsin. I would say your best bet would be the Madison area as it is the most progressive area in Wisconsin by far. It is also nationally known for its very liberal political attitude.

[lem]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee Ronnie

Then clearly you have never heard from anyone who is a person of color and lives in Madison.

My advice is this: log off this forum, spend some time in the places you're interested in, and talk to all kinds of people, both Black and White.

You'll find that no place is totally ideal, but some might be a better fit for you than others.

I know a black guy who moved from Green Bay to Madison for a job, wouldn't trade it for the world, absolutely loves it. I hate when people put personal instances and create a sterotype like this poster is doing.

[Alexus]

I would stick with the towns that are predominately college areas. Shorewood, Madison top this list. Recognize that you can never really get away from racism. It's everywhere. But at least near colleges, you will find tolerance as a residual effect of the exposure to university students of varying races who are educated.

[Jenny00]

Originally Posted by Trabbz

Crime has a direct link to poverty and socioeconomic class and nothing to do with race. I am white and I can say you can blame your white ancestors to a higher crime rate with minorities. Blacks still have a 3 times higher poverty rate than whites. Go to a poor white trailer park and there you can find plenty of drugs, domestic disputes, and violent crimes. This is no different than if you were to drive through a poor predominantly black neighborhood. NO DIFFERENT. And do me a favor, if you have never even had a black friend or even talked to a black person, than you have no right to judge. I have many black friends and I do not know one who sells drugs or has been involved in a violent crime. All of them have jobs and make their living just as any normal American does. As a resident of the Tampa/St. Pete metro area I can say there are high crime areas that are predominantly black, but so are the poor white trailor parks in the area. Recently at a trailor park in Pasco County a nazi flag waving white supremecist murdered his white 15 year old neighbor boy. Why? Because his mother was dating a black man. Many many crimes here take place by white people in trailor parks. All you have to do is watch the news. Open your eyes people!

To answer to the original post.....I wouldn't worry too much about racism in most areas of Wisconsin. I would say your best bet would be the Madison area as it is the most progressive area in Wisconsin by far. It is also nationally known for its very liberal political attitude.

I have to agree with the statement about “Crime has a direct link to poverty and socioeconomic class and nothing to do with races”. This is just crap posted up by an uneducated person who fails to understand that the reason why this is happening is because of the huge disparities in education and income between African Americans and Caucasians, due to the historical background of the African-American ancestors (wonder who's to blame for this?). I have a Ph.D. and moved to the Central Wisconsin area 2 years ago. I can't wait to get out of here. I joined this forum today after reading the ridiculous remarks posted online about the “black people”. Is that how you refer to them? And you wonder why your state is not diverse? There have been too many instances when I have been directly asked if I am an illegal immigrant on welfare. As a matter of fact, on the night that I just moved into town, a neighbor banged on my door and accused me of not having a job. I am a Professor, though young, brown and beautiful, I am extremely intelligent and well-traveled. If you are African-American, Latino, Asian or any other race other than Caucasian, do not buy into the racially tolerant story. Yes, there are a few people who are decent and friendly but anywhere north of Madison, you and your children will be faced with these ridiculous assumptions by closed-minded bigots. I thought that I could make a difference and took it upon myself to change this perception, but I am getting tired of it. The brain-drain is going to continue as long as people judge others based on the color of their skin. For those who think that minorities are corrupting your town, I’d like it to be known that out of the 74 registered sex offenders living in Stevens Point in early 2007, 73 are Caucasian. Oh, I thought you'd like to know that the 1 sexual offender who is not Caucasian is not one of the "black people" or the "Mexican people".

[Trabbz]

Originally Posted by Jenny00

I have to agree with the statement about “Crime has a direct link to poverty and socioeconomic class and nothing to do with races”....

This is the bad side to this forum. All of the bad apples can get on here and be vocal about their 19th century mentality. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but they make it seem as Wisconsin is a totally unfriendly place for non whites. In my experience this is usually not the case. Wisconsinites are supposed to be known as some of the friendliest people in the country. In my experience the racism or intolerence does not come from hatrid at all, but from a complete lack of exposure. Although this would never happen, maybe this country needs a "Get to know someone of a different culture/race day". People seem to forget that the variety of people that this country holds is exactly what it was indirectly intended to be, based on our founding fathers principles. The US is one of the most diverse countries in the world. People seem to forget that native americans were here first. This was their land first, and it was stolen from them. So lets not complain about who is here as unless you are 100% native american.

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