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Old 04-18-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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Maybe he can expand the trolley to FoxCon.
Not until after it goes north to my neighborhood .
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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If the Dems nominate Tom Barrett, I’m out.
So far Tony Evers has a pretty good lead over the other candidates.
https://www.wispolitics.com/2018/eve...ratic-primary/

Evers is big on improving education, & he can actually say the word Wisconsin without a heavy nasal accent so he's already 2 up in my book.
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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Tom Barrett LOL, well that's an easy win!
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:56 PM
 
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Evers is big on improving education
What are his plans for this?
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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What are his plans for this?
This
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Evers said his department and educators throughout the state have been
focusing on four simple, but powerful questions that set the framework for modernizing education in Wisconsin.
• What and how should kids learn?
• How do we know if they learned it?
• What do we do if they don’t? and
• How do we pay for it?
https://dpi.wi.gov/sites/default/fil...nr2011_101.pdf
Also,
https://www.tonyevers.com/issues
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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“We battled to get voter ID on the ballot for the November ’16 election,” Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, who defended the law in court, told conservative radiohost Vicki McKenna on April 12. “How many of your listeners really honestly are sure that Sen. [Ron] Johnson was going to win reelection or President Trump was going to win Wisconsin if we didn’t have voter ID to keep Wisconsin’s elections clean and honest and have integrity?”




Just seeing this quote. What a scumbag. Clean and honest? There has never been a hint of voter fraud around, study after study shows it doesn't exist. What does exist is preventing people from voting which is their Constitutional right, and in a way that adversely effects poor and minorities. This is freaking criminal.
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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And yet, in all of this , you haven't presented a single fact yet as to why Walker should remain in office.

Walker and his minions, including the state Supreme Court, are incredibly corrupt, and will do anything to gerrymand, or rig an election.

During his aborted presidential campaign, he actually compared striking teachers to ISIS. What a simple- minded boob, a supremely corrupt lightweight..
I don't think believe I ever articulated that he should stay in office. Most elections are trying to decipher and pick the least offensive alternative. Long ago, I stopped looking at politicians as offering any significant value. I am a small gov't person. Gov't is like chemo. Sometimes it is necessary but should be used sparingly and with the understanding of the collateral damage it causes.
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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You seriously think this state is in good shape under Scott Walker, that a democrat would crash our economy??? Think again.

Gov. Dayton raised taxes on the rich, invested in education, and expanded collective bargaining, while Walker busted unions, slashed education, and redistributed income and wealth to the richest 1%.

Currently we ARE having issues with infrastructure. The transportation budget is deep in debt, and the ruling republicans can’t decide on how to fund new road repairs. Nobody wants to raise taxes of any kind, Walker wants to borrow more money (effectively kicking the can down the road), others want to levy commercial fees, and nobody can agree, and while that’s going on the roads and bridges are in rough shape and major construction projects are in danger of grinding to a halt. That ain’t great.

The big anti-union push at the beginning of his tenure has led to a slow exodus of state employees. That may not seem like a big deal, and if you’re a small government fan then that’s exactly what you want. Problem is, they’re taking decades of institutional knowledge with them, and a lot of the tasks they performed still need to get done - can’t stop printing drivers licenses for a few weeks because until somebody learns how to run the database. More-expensive contractors and consultants are often needed and that costs a lot of money.

Environmental cuts and changes have made some people happy; farmers, some tourism businesses, etc are all pleased that pesky regulations have been done away with, so they can have large docks at their resorts or high-capacity wells for irrigation. However, again, the long-term effects aren’t visible yet and they could be pretty detrimental. High-cap wells may mean increased corn production in the short term…but lower tourism dollars as lakes start lowering and lower production later as the local aquifers deplete faster than they can be replenished. Tourism revenue may briefly increase as resorts and lodges put in more lakeside amenities…but then drop off long-term as shoreline erosion turns lakes into mud puddles. Lack of boat inspections may make things easier for fishermen going from lake to lake…but will be less effective in stopping the spread of lake-killing diseases like VHF or invasives like zebra mussels and asian carp.

He has no class, he’s a liar, and he passed a law to keep people from investigating him (self incrimination much?) and tried to halt spec ial elections.

In my book, his worst crime is to the educational legacy of Wisconsin.

He cut a world class collegiate institution that was affordable for many instate kids by 500 Million so that everyone could have an extra $75 on their tax returns. Many teachers left, many grants were dropped, and slowly but surely Wisconsin will begin a dark ascent to the depths of Education like Mississippi. The gross income of many Wisconsinites does not allow them to afford private schools. Cutting some of the best assets to our state will only increase brain drain and discourage companies to relocate here.

It’s inane, short sighted, and disgusting what has been done to education.

On the other side, Wisconsin has socialist policies that haven’t been maintenanced (i.e. they were written in the 1960’s and were not amended) and needed to be cut. Unions were controlling huge swaths of industry which led to inferior products and lack of change. The way that they were strong armed though has been detrimental to the morality of the state and uncouth. It divided and shamed us. Not really a win.

If you compare Wisconsin to Minnesota, you see the divergence of two ways of thinking. One, a Democrat raised taxes on the rich and dumped money into the school systems and public works. Guess who has a surplus, young people are flocking to it’s center, and something of a renaissance?

The other is filled with fear mongering people, bitter at their neighbors, a decline in any industry, and the slowest to recover from the recession? A deep divide where the books are shuffled to make paydays for those who are profiting anyway.

Wisconsin’s university system has also been under attack causing many top research scientists to leave and go elsewhere. He's very divisive. He treats Madison as if it’s out of touch, yet Madison is the tech engine that drives the state’s economy. "The last thing we need is more Madison in our lives," asserted our lovely governor Scott Walker. He's supposed to represent ALL Wisconsin citizens, yet persists in his "divide and conquer" tactic by treating Madison as its own seperate entity. He did the same thing with Milwaukee in 2012.

I could go on and on. Why do republicans think THIS is a good economy? There's a reason red states have the most dismal education systems.
Thank you for listing your "facts." It is appreciated.

Regarding your red state and education comments though - I beg to differ. I live in a dark blue state now and it's education system is ranked 46-48, depending on the survey. I see the quality difference every day when thinking about my children's education in WI. The same holds true for other blue west coast states like Hawaii and CA. Education quality is NOT owned by either party.

Walker helped WI immensely by reducing public school teacher union power. (You state same thing) Sure some teachers left so what - many consider that a good thing. Turnover in and of itself, is not a bad thing. If the Democrats lost some $ and power in the process, that's just a side benefit.

You like to compare to MN (Dem Gov) which is a great place no doubt. However in total US rankings, both WI and MN are high quality locations and some of your examples are subtle or just plain opinion.

Regardless of our differences of opinion though, thanks for the reply.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:29 PM
 
Location: The Midwest
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I don't think believe I ever articulated that he should stay in office. Most elections are trying to decipher and pick the least offensive alternative. Long ago, I stopped looking at politicians as offering any significant value. I am a small gov't person. Gov't is like chemo. Sometimes it is necessary but should be used sparingly and with the understanding of the collateral damage it causes.
Huh. Scott Walker is about as big gov as it gets.
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Old 06-03-2018, 07:13 AM
 
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We are recent transplants from NH and definitely supporting Walker.
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