leaving wisconsin survey (Milwaukee: houses, employment, scorpions)

[FormerCaliforniaGirl]

Originally Posted by gold*dust1

Yeah I couldn't think of another word to use.

That's okay. I totally understand your original point.

[ekg56]

I love the snow so I am happy as can be this winter. I love to snow shoe and believe me they have gotten a work out all ready this winter. Besides last winter, it had been awhile since we could do a lot of winter sports because of the lack of snow.

[WannaBeInAZ]

I've lived in WI my entire life. Born & raised in Milwaukee, now live in Waukesha County, and work in Madison. My husband and I are planning on relocating to Arizona within the next year or 2. The winters here are just too cold, too long and too dismal for us to tolerate. I need sunshine and there is just a huge deficiency of that in this state! In addition to that the property taxes are high, the largest & closest city - Milwaukee is ghetto. I've lived here my entire life and there are parts of Milwaukee I've never dared to venture to because there is just too much crime.
In addition to that, the property & income taxes are quite high. Granted I will miss the beautiful northwoods, along with Brewers games and tailgating, but I can always come back to visit... in the summer.

[Drover]

Someone help me understand this fascination with moving from the upper Midwest to Arizona. So you move from one place that requires climate control to be habitable 6 months out of the year to another place that requires climate control to be habitable 6 months out of the year, the primary difference being which half of the year requires climate control to be habitable. To my dying day, I will never understand why it is supposedly so much more desirable to live some place that's hotter than twenty Hells in the summer.

Oh yeah, and don't worry, Arizona is completely ghetto-free.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by WannaBeInAZ

I've lived in WI my entire life. Born & raised in Milwaukee, now live in Waukesha County, and work in Madison. My husband and I are planning on relocating to Arizona within the next year or 2. The winters here are just too cold, too long and too dismal for us to tolerate. I need sunshine and there is just a huge deficiency of that in this state! In addition to that the property taxes are high, the largest & closest city - Milwaukee is ghetto. I've lived here my entire life and there are parts of Milwaukee I've never dared to venture to because there is just too much crime.
In addition to that, the property & income taxes are quite high. Granted I will miss the beautiful northwoods, along with Brewers games and tailgating, but I can always come back to visit... in the summer.

I would definitely stay away from Phoenix unless you like temperatures above 115F in the summer and lows well above 90F! Also, I would visit AZ first to make sure you will like the intensity of the sun angle. I personally find the intense sun quite intolerable at very low latitudes.

[susancruzs]

AZ would never be on my list, I don't like extreme heat at all. When they say, its a dry heat, not humid like the midwest, my thought is would I stick my head in an oven???

I was to Scottsdale for a wedding, tacked a few days on so I could look around and did not like it. In May it was already warm, I tried the pool, it was like bath water and everything was shades of brown.

May in the midwest we have beautiful spring green! Only green I saw was at golf courses, malls or where there were sprinklers. I may talk about yard work but I'd rather mow than rake dust!

[ekg56]

I know someone who moved to AZ and hated it. Cost of living was very high and the heat was intolerable. They love to golf and play tennis and it was too dang hot to do this. And they said that the so many of the larget cities were crime ridden, drug havens.
So lets review, high cost of living, heat that makes it impossible to be outside for long, drugs, gangs. Sounds like a real paradise to me.
It is cold here today but the sun is shining. I took a walk and filled the bird feeders. Sounds good to me.

[JoshB]

Originally Posted by Drover

Someone help me understand this fascination with moving from the upper Midwest to Arizona. So you move from one place that requires climate control to be habitable 6 months out of the year to another place that requires climate control to be habitable 6 months out of the year, the primary difference being which half of the year requires climate control to be habitable. To my dying day, I will never understand why it is supposedly so much more desirable to live some place that's hotter than twenty Hells in the summer.

Oh yeah, and don't worry, Arizona is completely ghetto-free.

Head on!

[jjacobeclark]

Originally Posted by Drover

Someone help me understand this fascination with moving from the upper Midwest to Arizona. So you move from one place that requires climate control to be habitable 6 months out of the year to another place that requires climate control to be habitable 6 months out of the year, the primary difference being which half of the year requires climate control to be habitable. To my dying day, I will never understand why it is supposedly so much more desirable to live some place that's hotter than twenty Hells in the summer.

Oh yeah, and don't worry, Arizona is completely ghetto-free.

Agreed. Phoenix is like the Detroit of the West. Sky high crime rate. I've driven through Phoenix and saw bullet holes in the stucco wall around a gated community. Good point about the heat. A co-worker lived there and said people have to go jogging after 10pm because its too damn hot the rest of the day.

[BacktoNE]

I don't get the AZ thing either. High crime and scorching temps? No thank you. I find WI summers to be too hot and humid, I can't even imagine 115* even if it is a dry heat. And then there is that whole dead brown landscape thing out there. Nope, I like green grass and big old pine trees.