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Old 12-23-2008, 02:33 PM
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I don't see anywhere in the original poster's post, where she mentions that she lives in Oshkosh. She doesn't actually state where she lives.

Anyway, Oshkosh really isn't the "armpit of Wisconsin". You all know by now I just moved to Oshkosh from San Diego, and while I can definitely complain about a few things in this city, there are just as many good things to point out.

No one single city is perfect. For every great city attribute, there's something to complain about. Oshkosh has its problems, but it has its good points too.
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FormerCaliforniaGirl has a point here. IndigoAmour, could you tell us what city you live in? Not to bash it, but to give us a sense of geography, size, etc.?
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Old 12-23-2008, 03:29 PM
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She does mention in some other posts that she lives in Oshkosh.
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Let's see... from Puget Sound, to Oshkosh, WI.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?????

Did you inherit the place or something? I'm sorry you don't like your life, but there had to be a whole bunch of red flags that went up when you started thinking about moving to Oshkosh. In fact, I'd think that almost aspect of the relocation would raise a red flag. Small town, no ocean, totally different landscape, different weather, different people. It's not as if Oshkosh is known as the "Seattle of Wisconsin" or anything. I wouldn't move to Oshkosh from Sioux Falls, SD, much less Puget Sound.
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I don't see anywhere in the original poster's post, where she mentions that she lives in Oshkosh. She doesn't actually state where she lives.

Anyway, Oshkosh really isn't the "armpit of Wisconsin". You all know by now I just moved to Oshkosh from San Diego, and while I can definitely complain about a few things in this city, there are just as many good things to point out.

No one single city is perfect. For every great city attribute, there's something to complain about. Oshkosh has its problems, but it has its good points too.
We'll have to agree to disagree
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:17 PM
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I moved here a year ago and I really am suffering. I can't figure out how to meet other lesbians. I don't drink alcohol like the rest of this state seems to be so heavily into so bars are out of the question. I think they are all hiding from all the conservative people around here. Afraid to be singled out and attacked by the religious right or the red neck mafia!
What the hell are you talking about? Red neck mafia? Seattle isn't exactly immune to random acts of red neckery. Check out this article in the Seattle Times from a couple years back. The Seattle Times: Local News: Enumclaw-area animal-sex case investigated

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I am so unhappy here, the weather sucks and there is nothing to do. The highlight of the summer seems to be an airshow and a country drunk-a-thon.
Judging by the "airshow" and "country drunk-a-thon" remarks I'm going to assume you live in Oshkosh too. You think the weather sucks compared to Seattle? Sure we have had a snowy winter but at least the sun shines here and it doesn't rain every other day. Your highs in summer are like 65 degrees. The main reason you think there's nothing to do is because you don't drink. The town is nicknamed Sloshkosh for a reason.

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Flat, Hot in summer, Frigid and buried in snow in winter, no tall trees, no fresh seafood, nothing to do.
If you think WI is too hot in the summer, then I urge you to never visit Florida or Missouri or Texas or anywhere else that isn't in the Pacific Northwest. No tall trees? Maybe in the city of Oshkosh (which I doubt because it has an arboretum), but Wisconsin has more forest land than Washington does. We also have more coastline than WA too, 16,000 lakes in the state of WI. As far as seafood goes, that's relative. I know plenty of people who go icefishing in the winter.

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If you are not Catholic or Lutheran forget finding a nice church.
All Rust Belt and Northeastern states are majority Catholic. There are Unitarian Universalist churches in Appleton and Ripon, they're pretty open-minded.

Overall you sound really bitter and snobby, like most people I have encountered from Seattle. They've all seemed to think Seattle is world class and that Seattle is equivalent to NYC, Chicago, SF, Boston, DC, etc. Perhaps you're experiencing the opposite of the "Seattle Freeze" right now.
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:31 PM
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Overall you sound really bitter and snobby, like most people I have encountered from Seattle. They've all seemed to think Seattle is world class and that Seattle is equivalent to NYC, Chicago, SF, Boston, DC, etc. Perhaps you're experiencing the opposite of the "Seattle Freeze" right now.
yeah, I agree, I've read so many posts from ppl either from Seattle or Portland and they act like the PNW is god's country and the rest of the country, esp. the midwest, just can't understand their greatness. Not really sure what it is but it's very much there.

no fresh seafood? really , you're first coming to that conclusion now?

there is a drinking culture in Wisc. given -- but to move across the country and then complain about the weather in the internet age is pretty silly. there's simply no reason not to be informed and know what you're getting into. If I decide to move to Georgia and then complain about the summer humitdity - well that's pretty stupid IMO.

in terms of the EAA Airshow, it's very unique, people from all over the world come every year. I don't like planes much, went once years ago and don't have plans to return, but it's a pretty neat festival that's very popular.

we don't have any tall trees in Wisc., no woods in fact. (except for the majority of the state)

enjoy your trip back to god's country. we can consider ourselves blessed to have you impart your Pacific Northwest knowledge on us for this short period of time.
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Old 12-27-2008, 08:33 PM
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I can't resist doing this, in response to the tall trees remark! Just in my area, there are so many parks, so many trees, unreal. Manitowoc County has this huge cottonwood tree, I heard about it thought they were kidding me, until I saw it for myself!

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Old 12-28-2008, 06:49 AM
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I think they are all hiding from all the conservative people around here. Afraid to be singled out and attacked by the religious right or the red neck mafia!
I've been bashing Wi. for years. In general Wisconsin is very Homophobic. As my two children entered their twenties and weren't married I could see the eyebrows raise after they asked things like "... when those kids of yours going to give you some grandchildren"? "... oh, she doesn't have a boyfriend."
I can tell of many ignorant examples of how you are suppose to dress and act to avoid being suspected of "gay", or as many still call it, "*****". Even a young man interested in acting and dance and show business was sure to mean gayness in Wisconsin!
The happiest moment in my life was on Highway 29 traveling West with Green Bay's smoke stacks and church steeples in my rear view mirror. I've since read stories of other media people exiting Wisconsin. One of which was a successful female TV anchor in Minneapolis. She wrote of her days in Green Bay and when the call came from Minneapolis she and the kids were in the van heading West on highway 29 and they cheered in unison, "Were Out, Were OUT OF HERE!" That's a true story but I won't name anyone you'll have to research more on your own.
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Let's see... from Puget Sound, to Oshkosh, WI.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?????

Did you inherit the place or something? I'm sorry you don't like your life, but there had to be a whole bunch of red flags that went up when you started thinking about moving to Oshkosh. In fact, I'd think that almost aspect of the relocation would raise a red flag. Small town, no ocean, totally different landscape, different weather, different people. It's not as if Oshkosh is known as the "Seattle of Wisconsin" or anything. I wouldn't move to Oshkosh from Sioux Falls, SD, much less Puget Sound.
Puget Sound isn't that blissful of a place, so I can't imagine why she is complaining to begin with.
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