Hooray....Smoking Ban Compromise Reached! (Two Rivers: city hall, bars, license)

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Originally Posted by gold*dust1

You people are incredible! You can find stink all over! I come across plenty of stinky a$$ people when I go out to stores etc. and I can smell their nasty B.O./unclean smell from a distance, as well as countless non smokers gagable breaths. I seriously would like to rolf quite frequently

It's apparent some of you sanctimonious folks need to feel better about yourselves as smokers are one of the last groups you can pick apart and pigeon hole to fit your whiny perceptions. No one with a heart would feel the need to talk so smugly about a serious addiction that kills!

News flash to y'all, for what it's worth, some businesses in Madison did shut down because of the ban. Others reinvented themselves and added smoking porches. I hope some owners will come up with a way like SF, if they haven't already, where if workers are related and there is no food, they can remain a smoking establishment. I'm sure smokers would love to keep you anal retentatives out!!!

It's already been rumored in our newspaper that many of the smaller towns and individual owners will find a way around the ban. Who will enforce them? Good luck smoke nazi's...maybe you can buck up and create a watch group

Excessive body odor is also inexcusable. I've never come across anyone who stunk so much that the stink stayed on my clothes, but if it happens that is every bit as rude as smokers stinking up people.

Everyone talks about rights and laws. We had to take Dahmer's right to eat people away and we have to take the rights from adults who want to abuse children. Is this an extreme example? Obviously, but it's the same principle. Some people think they have the right to do whatever they want,even when it effects others. It's incredibly stupid, but that's what this country has come to. Chainsmoke to your hearts content in your own home while watching Roseanne or Hee Haw, but don't stink up my clothes. Especially since you're not paying me for the detergent, soap and shampoo to rid me of you.

Same old story in every state, "we're gonna ignore the ban". No they won't, because there are people like me who will make sure they don't.

Good luck smoke Nazis? We don't need luck, things are going pretty good for us at the moment.

[JDCATONSVILLE]

So when does polluting the air around you make someone any less "anal retentive". It's funny how that when people don't want to be accountable for their own actions they start throwing those accusations around trying to make it seem like it's everyone else with the problem. Well in a way it is, it's the problem we have with having our air space polluted by walking chimneys. It's also funny how this has been reduced to the mear smell of the smoke and not the fact of the damage it does to people. Bars are there to sell alcohol, not for a hang out for people to smoke. If they want that then maybe they should keep their "whinny" buts home or someone could open up a smoking house, a place they can all go kill each other in peace. And also as far as smelling non smokers rancid breath, well if your a smoker you most likely can't even smell your own breath much less the breath of someone else. This is a health issue and needs to be addressed as such and that's why the laws accross this country are being passed. When someones actions start to affect others in a negative way then that's when they lose their rights to continue to perform those actions. Like I said before it's funny how many laws that have all ready been passed that have removed your rights about one thing or another and people haven't said a word, and a good deal of the time those people's actions would have just been harming themselves and not others as this does.

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Originally Posted by JDCATONSVILLE

So when does polluting the air around you make someone any less "anal retentive". It's funny how that when people don't want to be accountable for their own actions they start throwing those accusations around trying to make it seem like it's everyone else with the problem. Well in a way it is, it's the problem we have with having our air space polluted by walking chimneys. It's also funny how this has been reduced to the mear smell of the smoke and not the fact of the damage it does to people. Bars are there to sell alcohol, not for a hang out for people to smoke. If they want that then maybe they should keep their "whinny" buts home or someone could open up a smoking house, a place they can all go kill each other in peace. And also as far as smelling non smokers rancid breath, well if your a smoker you most likely can't even smell your own breath much less the breath of someone else. This is a health issue and needs to be addressed as such and that's why the laws accross this country are being passed. When someones actions start to affect others in a negative way then that's when they lose their rights to continue to perform those actions. Like I said before it's funny how many laws that have all ready been passed that have removed your rights about one thing or another and people haven't said a word, and a good deal of the time those people's actions would have just been harming themselves and not others as this does.

Now that we've squashed the smokers, I'm moving on to people who have conversations during movies and concerts - the same unbelievable ignorance. The same stupid "I have rights" attitude.

[Signora]

My favorite people are the ones who have cell phone conversations during the movies!

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Originally Posted by Signora

My favorite people are the ones who have cell phone conversations during the movies!

Probably calling friends to bring them a cigarette

[e.ortega]

Originally Posted by FormerCaliforniaGirl

According to the Northwestern newspaper, a compromise has been reached and a smoking ban on all smoking in restaurants, bars, taverns and workplaces (with a very few exceptions) is likely to commence in Spring of 2010.

That will make Wisconsin the 27th state to enact a state-wide smoking ban.

Congratulations!!!!!!! That sounds awesome. I hate cigarettes and the smell is even WORSE. Like who wants to eat at an establishment where people are smoking, coughing, ashes everywhere YUCK!!!!

I was SO SO SO happy when it was passed here in NYC because it was out of control with the NASTY CIGARETTES EVERYWHERE already.

[Lynnv70]

Originally Posted by zz4guy

Most people want to enjoy a cigarette and a beer at the end of the day. What is so wrong with that? Nobody forces you to go to that bar. Stay the hell out if it bothers you.

What's wrong with having both? I'm a decades smoker and have nothing against smoking segregation. But stop infringing on our rights, too!

[FormerCaliforniaGirl]

Originally Posted by Lynnv70

What's wrong with having both? I'm a decades smoker and have nothing against smoking segregation. But stop infringing on our rights, too!

I understand that it annoys smokers when they're told they cannot light up in certain public areas. But the fact is, anti-smoking legislation isn't aimed at "socking it to" smokesr; instead, it's aimed at protecting the health of non-smokers.

So sorry all you smokers...but the health of non-smokers takes precedence over your addiction.

[QwertyFarmer]

Originally Posted by Drover

The elitism dripping from this thread is telling. And sad.

Elitism? What is it called when smokers say out loud and in public forums they intend to disregard the law when passed? I know at times it is easy to throw harsher words at things we as individuals do not like, but it is too often true that smokers of cigarettes feel as if they have a "god given right" to light up anywhere.

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Originally Posted by zz4guy

Good luck, WIsconsin. Iowa caved to smoking nazis like this one ^^ last year. A lot of small and medium town bars closed because of lack of business.

Most people want to enjoy a cigarette and a beer at the end of the day. What is so wrong with that? Nobody forces you to go to that bar. Stay the hell out if it bothers you.

It doesn't matter what you think or I think, the world has spoken. You lose, smokestacks.