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07-08-2009, 07:05 PM
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There's beauty in the solace of not giving a damn.
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Even if the landscape Mexicans head south for the winter, your neighbors can still hire the local kids to do it. Whatever happened to having the neighborhood kids walk around and offer to shovel your sidewalk for $5 or $10?
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07-09-2009, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jtur88
Stop at a Wisconsin rest area on the interstate and count how many separate recycling receptacles there are. You don't even have to live there for a while to observe that.
When I lived in Michigan, and visited my sister in Wisconsin, she'd make me go out and help shovel her snow, first thing in the morning, when there was an inch or two overnight, right down to the pavement, and right to the edge of the grass, I remarked that the difference between Wi and MI is that in WI everybody shovels their show, while in MI, everyone just drives through it. She acted like I was talking about Bangladesh. I looked up and down the street, and everyone was doing the same thing, as if they are afraid of some secret police or something. Or officious neighbors, which is worse. Then she said you have to carry each shovelful onto your lawn, because you're not allowed to push the snow into the street, even though it's fine for the showplows to shove it all into your driveway. I'd like to hear the supreme court rule on that law, but people in WI just take it. I was remarking to my nephew about these kinds of things, and he said Yes, Wisconsin is the most nazi state in the US. And he grew up in Germany.
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Walking through deep snow sucks. Being polite and considerate of your neighbors=Nazism? Ok then....
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07-09-2009, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jtur88
Stop at a Wisconsin rest area on the interstate and count how many separate recycling receptacles there are. You don't even have to live there for a while to observe that.
When I lived in Michigan, and visited my sister in Wisconsin, she'd make me go out and help shovel her snow, first thing in the morning, when there was an inch or two overnight, right down to the pavement, and right to the edge of the grass, I remarked that the difference between Wi and MI is that in WI everybody shovels their show, while in MI, everyone just drives through it. She acted like I was talking about Bangladesh. I looked up and down the street, and everyone was doing the same thing, as if they are afraid of some secret police or something. Or officious neighbors, which is worse. Then she said you have to carry each shovelful onto your lawn, because you're not allowed to push the snow into the street, even though it's fine for the showplows to shove it all into your driveway. I'd like to hear the supreme court rule on that law, but people in WI just take it. I was remarking to my nephew about these kinds of things, and he said Yes, Wisconsin is the most nazi state in the US. And he grew up in Germany.
When my WI relatives drive to the mall, they think you are "not allowed" to pull through a parkng space so you are pointing out through the facing one. "Not allowed to" is the phrase I hear most frequently when hanging out with my family there. Wisconsin people have a very keen awareness of what you're "not allowed" to do. It's like a sixth sense.
These are not opinions, they are observations. Ive lived in 15 other states, and I see what I see.
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Sounds very Germanic in all its best and worst. WI has many with German heritage. Old German saying my Mom would use "ordnung muss sein" Translated: "Order Must Be" I also see some good old fashioned neighborliness in not piling up snow on the street or on the neighbor's lawn along with common courtesy. In my visits to Germany I see a lot of this "Must follow the rules" and striving for orderliness. I believe the other northern European groups settling WI had some to quite a bit of this too that gets passed down and diluted a little bit also.
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07-09-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cubssoxfan
Sounds very Germanic in all its best and worst. WI has many with German heritage. Old German saying my Mom would use "ordnung muss sein" Translated: "Order Must Be" I also see some good old fashioned neighborliness in not piling up snow on the street or on the neighbor's lawn along with common courtesy. In my visits to Germany I see a lot of this "Must follow the rules" and striving for orderliness. I believe the other northern European groups settling WI had some to quite a bit of this too that gets passed down and diluted a little bit also.
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I like order. I like it when things are clean and calm. It gives me more time and space to be creative, rather than sitting in a mess. If streets are clean, I can concentrate on the beauty of nature around me. If a room is very clean, I can think better. I am at ease when things are clean, orderly, and nice. Maybe some of that "Ordung Muss Sein" trickle down to Atlanta,GA, when it really is a dirty, disorderly city. Even some of the nicer suburbs have problems with littering.
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07-09-2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte
I like order. I like it when things are clean and calm. It gives me more time and space to be creative, rather than sitting in a mess. If streets are clean, I can concentrate on the beauty of nature around me. If a room is very clean, I can think better. I am at ease when things are clean, orderly, and nice. Maybe some of that "Ordung Muss Sein" trickle down to Atlanta,GA, when it really is a dirty, disorderly city. Even some of the nicer suburbs have problems with littering.
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Hey pirate, why don't you stop lurking around the Wisconsin forum and just move your butt up here already? You sound like you belong in Wisconsin more so than in Georgia.
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07-09-2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jjacobeclark
Hey pirate, why don't you stop lurking around the Wisconsin forum and just move your butt up here already? You sound like you belong in Wisconsin more so than in Georgia.
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One problem. I can't afford to move right now.
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07-12-2009, 03:39 PM
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This post is hilarious. I love how people are going back and forth about the most trivial things. I guess that's another thing that is so interesting about Wisconsin people! We/they argue about the most trivial things...not out of hate or culture, but more-so just because we can and enjoy a good laugh afterwards.
This kind of communication happens everyday in our back-yard bbq's, supper clubs, taverns, etc. And yet we eat and drink together and don't hate each other for our trivial pursuit of being right. LOL
Reading this post only makes me miss Wisconsin even more!
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07-12-2009, 03:41 PM
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p.s. I'm coming back next summer for a fun vacation with my daughters and new bride. (My daughters think Wisconsin is heaven on earth) My wife is originally from southern Missouri and has never been to Wisconsin...boy, is she in for a real treat! My girls and I can't wait...
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07-13-2009, 12:52 PM
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I lived in GB for 8 years and now live in Springfield, Il. Overall, things aren't much different. However, things I like better in IL are:
1.) The weather is MUCH better (warmer year-round)
2.) Live fairly close to St. Louis and it has alot to offer
3.) IL income taxes are lower
Things I liked better in WI:
1.) the terrain
2.) the Packers
3.) all of the water
I think that the people are great both places and the towns are about equal size and have about the same things to offer (GB and Springfield). This was an easy move for me and itr is still close enough to WI to go there a few times a year to visit Door Co. and go to a few Packers games. Overall, the places are pretty much a toss-up. I would live in which ever one I can make the most $$ as living costs are about the same too.
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07-13-2009, 01:37 PM
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Can't wait to come up for my annual visit back to the farm outside of Owen WI from Aug 15 - Sep 9. Will be outside from sunrise to sunset every day loving it and will hate the day I have to return to Phoenix as usual.
Will retire from the military and be back permanently soon.
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