Reputation of University of Wisconsin Campuses (Milwaukee, Madison: 2009, rentals, high crime)

[jjacobeclark]

Originally Posted by Wingfoot

Rest assurred nothing has changed whatsoever.Your analysis is Spot On !

Ahter I got out the service I innocently enrolled at one of the UW-Zero's
and after 1 semester of see-spot-run level of instruction ran screaming to U of MN.
I had one insructor at the Zero who was English and I asked if I was right
in thinking something was drastically wrong at the Zero-she gave me a long look and said "this place would not be considered a decent secondary school in England" .

First of all, UW-Zero only refers to UW-Oshkosh. Get it, UW-O? You seem to be using the term incorrectly here, as though it applies to any UW system school.

Second, Wisconsin's flagship school is better than Minnesota's flagship school. UW-Madison is consistently ranked higher in academics than UM-Twin Cities.

Third, it's supposed to be British, not "English," when you're referring to a person's ancestry. Apparently your instructor wasn't bothered enough by the low academic standards to quit and find a job teaching in a more respectable university. Which makes me question her devotion to education as well as her integrity.

[Wingfoot]

Originally Posted by jjacobeclark

First of all, UW-Zero only refers to UW-Oshkosh. Get it, UW-O? You seem to be using the term incorrectly here, as though it applies to any UW system school.

Second, Wisconsin's flagship school is better than Minnesota's flagship school. UW-Madison is consistently ranked higher in academics than UM-Twin Cities.

Third, it's supposed to be British, not "English," when you're referring to a person's ancestry. Apparently your instructor wasn't bothered enough by the low academic standards to quit and find a job teaching in a more respectable university. Which makes me question her devotion to education as well as her integrity.

I get it. I just didn't want to run anyother one specifically though they all are 4th rate, which is not true of some of the 2-year branches BTW.

We were not discussing Madison and your comments on the ladies integity convict you not her.

[Alexus]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

I would put Marquette above UW-Madison in terms of national recognition and prestige and not b/c I'm a big MU fan.

I agree. Marquette is above Madison and the most prestigious and nationally-respected university from the state of Wisconsin.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by jjacobeclark

Third, it's supposed to be British, not "English," when you're referring to a person's ancestry. Apparently your instructor wasn't bothered enough by the low academic standards to quit and find a job teaching in a more respectable university. Which makes me question her devotion to education as well as her integrity.

First, since when does "British" describe someone's ancestry? That leaves open the question whether they're English, Scottish, Welsh, or possibly even Irish. "British" is not an ethnicity, it's a nationality, and the two are not interchangeable.

Second, sometimes academics take positions in less-than-prestigious institutions with the hope that they can make their mark there and at least improve the standards and reputation of their department. To question one's devotion to education as well as their integrity for doing so is fatuous and probably disingenuous.

[jjacobeclark]

Originally Posted by Drover

First, since when does "British" describe someone's ancestry? That leaves open the question whether they're English, Scottish, Welsh, or possibly even Irish. "British" is not an ethnicity, it's a nationality, and the two are not interchangeable.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are separate countries who, along with England, comprise the United Kingdom.

I'm 1/4 British, I'm not 1/4 English. English refers to the language or the actual country of England not the culture or the people. It's kind of like a person from Iran isn't Iranian, they're Persian.

Originally Posted by Drover

Second, sometimes academics take positions in less-than-prestigious institutions with the hope that they can make their mark there and at least improve the standards and reputation of their department. To question one's devotion to education as well as their integrity for doing so is fatuous and probably disingenuous.

The instructor we're discussing said "this place would not be considered a decent secondary school in England" and yet she keeps teaching there. Why? I can't see how it would be to the benefit of the students to tell them that their university is sub par. How is that going to motivate them?

[Drover]

OK, if you say so. There is no English ethnicity, a fact you'll have to explain to the legions who claim it, and you know this professor well enough to question her integrity and dedication to education even though education is, you know, what she does for a living.

[Wingfoot]

Originally Posted by Alexus

I agree. Marquette is above Madison and the most prestigious and nationally-respected university from the state of Wisconsin.

You jest surely, UW-Madison is among the top 20-30 universites in the world ,grants more earned Phd's that any university in the world and virtually are its grad programs are ranked in top10 in the US.
In some fields,notably biological research, it is THE top university in the world.
I dare say there are few,if any, top colleges and Universities in the nation without UW Phds on their faculaty, hundreds in the Ivies alone.
The exact converse is true of Marquette.

That said, I'd prefer to go to Marq. and study theology myself as an undergrad, which however has no bearing on the facts.

[Irishtom29]

British is a political description and English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish are ethnic descriptions. Thus a person can fall under either or both descriptions as they so choose.

And then the Irish have two political descriptions, those in Northern Ireland being British and those in the Republic being Irish.

I reckon that's too complicated for some to ken.

[madisonian1]

The UW System, as a whole, is a highly ranked university system and Wisconsin residents should feel lucky that they have such a comprehensive system in their state. Other states envy Wisconsin for their college educational system; Wisconsin, as a whole, ranks very highly in all areas of education. As an aside, Wisconsin colleges are relatively cheap -- so, yes, Wisconsin residents are probably more likely to go onto college than if they lived elsewhere because the state makes it so accessible and affordable compared to other states. And, of course, you get quite a bang for your buck.

Madison of course is the flagship and has anything you could possibly want. All the other campuses have their own strengths and weaknesses, and a lot of have their own defining programs. I wouldn't necessarily call any of them "bad." I personally went to a UW "satellite campus" for my bachelor's and now go to Madison for graduate school, so I've seen both sides. My undergrad. institution, I felt, was excellent quality, and I really liked the more intimate interaction you were able to have with fellow students and professors.

And to whoever thinks that Marquette is more prestigious than UW-Madison: you're living in a dream world. Marquette isn't even thought of that highly in Wisconsin! Considered a good school, yes, but definitely not the "cream of the crop" nor as good as UW. UW's achievements since its inception are staggering and are noteworthy on a national scale; Marquette doesn't come close.

[TAB1452]

Back on topic...obviously UW-Madison is hands down the best for the amount of programs they offer...the D1 athletics and some of the best teaching you can get...

and it seems as though there is a pretty big UW-Milwaukee bias on here...

I guess if you are just looking at the university then it is OKAY for a D1 school...even though most would consider going to UW-Milwaukee at or below some of the D3 schools...not to mention the crime rate in milwaukee and recently around campus I dont see why anyone would want to go there...my best friends went there and one still does...I'm not saying its a "TERRIBLE" university...but amongst D1 and even some D3 schools in Wisconsin...I'd say it's subpar by far

I am also shocked that UW-Whitewater hasn't gotten much mention...it's probably the top D3 business school in Wisconsin as their accounting programs rank near the top in the nation and thats not just for D3 schools...they also have one of the best marketing departments in the country as their AMA chapter routinely finishes in the top 3 in the country...in fact the last 4 years they have finished 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st...going up against every division of school and private schools thats pretty good...throw in their great athletic programs and you have one of the best D3 schools not only in the state but possibly the nation...they have a student body that is bigger then schools like Vanderbilt and I think Notre Dame even...but it still has that small town feel...but then if you get bored Madison and Milwaukee are under an hour away and you can enjoy that party scene...also...WW has recently spent millions upon millions improving their dorms into suite type dorms (still in progress) just finished the building of the new Business School which is beautiful...recently just built the new Sciences building...and all of their athletic fields have been updated as well...so much positive to say about this school I wish I was going there...I don't think it is a big deal for OP but it's a very handicap accessible school

After WW I would pick LAX...I think those are by far the top two D3 schools in Wisconsin...as stated LAX also has great academic programs and it's in a larger city along the Mississippi...it's a BEAUTIFUL city with the bluffs and the river...campus is pretty nice and the girls here are tops of all D3 schools...

if I had to put the rest in order it would go

UW EC - Good schooling in a larger city located close to the Twin Cities...also close to 2 other WIAC schools
UW SP - Good school for what they offer and I personally love the area but its not for everyone...it's kind of an isolated city compared to a few other top campuses but still a quality small town college and great partying atmosphere
UW O - As much as people knock UW-Zero...I always loved going there to party...as much as I NEVER wanted to attend the school I always had fun visiting...I love the Fox Valley and there's always something to do...but the schooling isn't the best and they do have some characters there
UW P-Vegas - "Where the men are men and so are the women" basically summed it up when I was in school but it is a great engineering school and its located very close to Dubuque Iowa...its kind of an isolated school as well and in a small town but it depends what you are looking for
UW Stout - It appears everyone else has said what I would say..."when in doubt..."
UW RF - A great school for anything ag related but outside of that and the beauty surrounding campus theres not much going for this school...maybe that the Chiefs stay there during training camp?
UW Superior - IDK...can't say much about this school...if it was a vacation home I might enjoy it...but not going to school there...