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09-13-2009, 03:18 PM
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not to mention the crime rate in milwaukee and recently around campus I dont see why anyone would want to go there...my best friends went there and one still does...I'm not saying its a "TERRIBLE" university...but amongst D1 and even some D3 schools in Wisconsin...I'd say it's subpar by far
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The crime rate in Milwaukee isn't as bad as the cities that rank above it in terms on most dangerous cities. Milwaukee is the 23rd largest city and isn't even in the top 25 when it comes to crime rate, and as for the area around UWM you can barely buy a house for 250,000 in that area most home are 300,000 and up and you go east one block from the campus and homes sell for as much as 800,000. So to say the crime is bad around the university is wrong and not accurate.
However I will give you this UW-Madison is the best university in the state and has the nicest campus, best urban campus goes to Marq, and best college not Marq and UW-Madison is UW-Milw. The area around UWM is really nice, you have the whole lake front and a ton of bike paths and a lot of tree lined streets with stately homes on them however still lacks the college feel still more of a commuter college. In recent years south of the university and along Oakland Ave is fast becoming a nice college district with many of the homes turning into rentals for the students.
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09-13-2009, 03:47 PM
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Go 4 or 5 blocks from UWM and some homes go for 2 or 3 million. Also, the census track between Edgewood and Capitol Dr.on Lake Dr. has the 2nd highest average per capita income in the state. This track is only blocks from UWM. The zip code 53211 has the 14th highest per capita income in the state out of 600 zip codes and this includes many students who claim little for income. If not for the students it would easily be in the top 10. An argument could be made that the UWM campus may be in the highest income area of any major college or university in the state. UWM is 5 blocks from Lake Dr. and boarders Shorewood and Whitefish Bay is only a mile or two away. A 2200 sq ft home south of UWM and not even near Lake Dr. will run at least $300,000. On a nice street such as Newberry this same home would be over $400,000. Many have no idea what their talking about when it comes to UWM or the UWM neighborhood. Homes prices over $600,000 to 2 million are no big deal within walking distance of UWM. They are very common.
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09-14-2009, 12:38 PM
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Go 4 or 5 blocks from UWM and some homes go for 2 or 3 million. Also, the census track between Edgewood and Capitol Dr.on Lake Dr. has the 2nd highest average per capita income in the state. This track is only blocks from UWM. The zip code 53211 has the 14th highest per capita income in the state out of 600 zip codes and this includes many students who claim little for income. If not for the students it would easily be in the top 10. An argument could be made that the UWM campus may be in the highest income area of any major college or university in the state. UWM is 5 blocks from Lake Dr. and boarders Shorewood and Whitefish Bay is only a mile or two away. A 2200 sq ft home south of UWM and not even near Lake Dr. will run at least $300,000. On a nice street such as Newberry this same home would be over $400,000. Many have no idea what their talking about when it comes to UWM or the UWM neighborhood. Homes prices over $600,000 to 2 million are no big deal within walking distance of UWM. They are very common.
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So what, grad prorams in the top 10 nationwide ,even worldwide aren't.
You can get a great education at the public library but in terms of an institution UW- Madison is an order/s of magnitute above anything in the state.
And I'm not an alum.
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09-14-2009, 01:17 PM
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So what, grad prorams in the top 10 nationwide ,even worldwide aren't.
You can get a great education at the public library but in terms of an institution UW- Madison is an order/s of magnitute above anything in the state.
And I'm not an alum.
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No doubt. UW-Madison is the top school in the state.
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09-14-2009, 11:24 PM
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UW-Milwaukee still beats Madison in certain areas such as business, architecture/urban planning, and the fine arts.
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09-15-2009, 01:45 AM
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The crime rate in Milwaukee isn't as bad as the cities that rank above it in terms on most dangerous cities. Milwaukee is the 23rd largest city and isn't even in the top 25 when it comes to crime rate, and as for the area around UWM you can barely buy a house for 250,000 in that area most home are 300,000 and up and you go east one block from the campus and homes sell for as much as 800,000. So to say the crime is bad around the university is wrong and not accurate.
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this may be a dumb question...but what does how much a house sells for in the area any relation to crime rate? so professors and business owners live away from campus a bit...does that deter crime from campus? I've been on campus personally and never had a problem...but I also know a bunch of people who are on campus on a consistent basis and everyone of them has a story to tell.
Unfortunately this link hasn't been updated but I'm sure you can find enough in the archives to see that Milwaukee's campus is far from a safe haven of sorts and the crime rate is quite high...and these are only from crimes that are reported
UW-Milwaukee | 2009 Campus Crime Reports Archives
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09-15-2009, 04:04 PM
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this may be a dumb question...but what does how much a house sells for in the area any relation to crime rate? so professors and business owners live away from campus a bit...does that deter crime from campus? I've been on campus personally and never had a problem...but I also know a bunch of people who are on campus on a consistent basis and everyone of them has a story to tell.
Unfortunately this link hasn't been updated but I'm sure you can find enough in the archives to see that Milwaukee's campus is far from a safe haven of sorts and the crime rate is quite high...and these are only from crimes that are reported
UW-Milwaukee | 2009 Campus Crime Reports Archives
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I read thru the reports. For a campus with 28,000 students and thousands more around the university it didn't seem to bad. 90% of the crimes look like small offenses. I realize there is crime in the area, but it isn't to bad. I should know I live 3 blocks from the UWM campus in the same home since 1991. The area around UWM has a very high population density and crime does happen, but the odds are small. It's probably worse than most of the other UW schools, but its a long ways from being like the south side of Chicago.
In response to home prices. There is a direct correlation between crime and home prices. Areas with high crime almost always have lower home prices. The price of a home is a reflection of the neighborhood. A buyer will think long and hard before dropping over a half million or more in a high crime area. Maybe you haven't spent much time in large cities, but this is generally the case. There are some gentrifying neighborhoods where this isn't the case. UWM is not in a redeveloping area, it is an established neighborhood.
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09-15-2009, 11:12 PM
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UW-Milwaukee still beats Madison in certain areas such as business, architecture/urban planning, and the fine arts.
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Urban planning, yes, others no way.
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09-16-2009, 08:12 AM
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Urban planning, yes, others no way.
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Huh? The Peck School of the Arts is far and away the best fine arts college in the state. Does Madison even have theatre, symphony, opera, ballet, etc?
As far as business is concerned, I can't think of a better place in Wisconsin to get a degree in business than Milwaukee. After all, it is the largest business center in the state with the most top companies and networking opportunities for business graduates.
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09-16-2009, 08:53 AM
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Huh? The Peck School of the Arts is far and away the best fine arts college in the state. Does Madison even have theatre, symphony, opera, ballet, etc?
As far as business is concerned, I can't think of a better place in Wisconsin to get a degree in business than Milwaukee. After all, it is the largest business center in the state with the most top companies and networking opportunities for business graduates.
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