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Old 06-14-2010, 10:09 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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resigning soon, b/c of atmosphere of job and other things...

i have never filed unemp before...

but think I might have a case upon my resignation,

basically I was asked to go behind my bosses and colleagues back on a project they had been working on for 6 months by the vp of the company. "this has been going on for 6 months, could you do it, if so kudos for you, b/c this is a big problem..."
i guess the vp didn't realize i wasn't a weasel, and actually told my boss about this...
there have been a few other minor cases of circumvention of leadership, i.e. coming directly to my desk to yell about stuff, instead of taking it up with my manager.

another thing is possible, i.e. I thought my quarterly review in march was innacurate. they gave me a 3 out of 5 on attendance... and at that point I had never taken a day off, been late, never taken a sick day or vacation in my first 6 months there, plus i worked on new years eve...

would this kind of workplace stuff qualify?

if i don't get unemployment, no big deal..

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Old 06-14-2010, 10:14 AM
 
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Just realize it will be far from a sure thing on the Unemployment thing for you, it will probably be a toss up.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:15 PM
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It's worth a try. I'm in the same boat, having to leave a poisonous work environment to save my sanity. I am filing for unemployment on my last day, which is tomorrow.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:29 PM
 
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I guess there's no harm in trying.

"Circumvention of leadership" though is not grounds for obtaining benefits. Your boss' boss is still your boss and was completely within bounds to give you a directive and expect you to do it.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:51 PM
 
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I guess there's no harm in trying.

"Circumvention of leadership" though is not grounds for obtaining benefits. Your boss' boss is still your boss and was completely within bounds to give you a directive and expect you to do it.
so he should tell me projects to do, behind my managers back? stuff that my manager was already working on?
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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Of course he can and should. He outranks both of you. He isn't required to get your manager's permission or approval before giving you or anyone else a directive. And he isn't required to get your approval or make you happy either. He's the boss. He can give orders to anyone underneath them.

When the employment office says you may be eligible if you quit your job, they are referring to cases of extreme hostility--sexual harassment, physical intimidation, ordering you to commit a crime or endanger lives. Serious stuff like that, not just 'you don't like what your boss told you to do.'
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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How long do you think you can live without an income?
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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In FL, you'd be SOL.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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Of course he can and should. He outranks both of you. He isn't required to get your manager's permission or approval before giving you or anyone else a directive. And he isn't required to get your approval or make you happy either. He's the boss. He can give orders to anyone underneath them.

When the employment office says you may be eligible if you quit your job, they are referring to cases of extreme hostility--sexual harassment, physical intimidation, ordering you to commit a crime or endanger lives. Serious stuff like that, not just 'you don't like what your boss told you to do.'
i guess he sure can, thats why we've had 6 people quit already this year, and 5 people in the last 12 months just walk out without a notice he's quite the a-hole. Note we only have about 40 employees...sorry i'm not fond of micromanaging, especially when it is to go behind somebody elses back to make a corporate culture of brown nosing and ratting people out, that to me, is unethical. hence why i told my manager about it and told him I was not acting on his orders to circumvent my direct manager (who hired me) and colleague. I would rather quit, (which I am) before I voluntarily participate in backstabbing. I guess people have come to accept unethical behavior as commonplace...

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Old 06-14-2010, 09:07 PM
 
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I don't think most people would consider it 'unethical' to give a subordinate an order and expect them to follow it. I doubt UI will either, but nothing ventured, nothing gained, I suppose.

In fact, many people would consider it a compliment to be tapped to take over responsibility when their manager is failing. It shows tremendous trust in you. But if you want to be offended by it, I guess that's your prerogative.
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