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Unread 07-01-2010, 06:24 PM
 
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I understand how you feel. I have been in the position in the past of having to consider whether it was worthwhile to take an assignment that was too far away. Ultimately, it was not practical because I could not just pick up and move for a temp assignment or even a temp-to-hire that might not pan out. If the job is "perm" -as much as anyone can really call a job permanent- then I would be in a position to move closer to the job.
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Unread 07-08-2010, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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UPDATE:

So, I went to the interview. The whole interview played out and the hiring manager never once mentioned the temp-to-perm deal, so during the question portion, I brought it up. She didn't seem to even acknowledge that I had not been told about it (I phrased it well, not accusatory or anything) and basically explained it as a probation period. She says that all their entry level hires are now temp-to-perm and that as long as there are no problems, they are automatically hired at 3 months. It's not a budget issue.

I still don't know how I feel about it. We'll see if I get an offer and then I guess I'll be forced to decide. Right now I only have one possible lead, but it's for an incredibly competitive employer (Google). My boyfriend referred me and got good feedback from the recruiter and hiring manager for the position, so I know I have an interview, but there's still a lot of variables.
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Unread 07-17-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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She emailed me back and told me that the position is temp to hire with no benefits until I'm a full time hire.

Shouldn't this have come up way before this?
Many recruiters lie, or avoid telling the truth until the last minute.

Its best to avoid recruiters in general. You can network on your own to find job leads - that is how recruiters find them!

Temp to hire is a scam. I think Manpower temp agency even admitted that 60% of their temp jobs never go perm. But that is probably a conservative estimate, considering the source. The reality is more like around 70 to 80% of temp job that never go permanent.

Also, many companies have a policy against hiring temps or contractors for any open positions in the company. However, they will NOT reveal this to you. You could be up against a brick wall and never even know it.

I have a total of two years experience in the temp industry. I have been treated maliciously by a few client companies that I worked for. Most of the others would just disregard me, or treat their temps with contempt. A few of them told me they would hire me, but couldn't afford the agency fee.
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Unread 07-17-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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Thx, AnthonyB. But, I already know how "some of the employees" get hired.
Network, network, network. Go places, meet people, collect business cards, ask for referrals. Talk to your friends, your former colleagues, your relatives.

Forget about recruiters, headhunters and temp agencies.
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Unread 07-18-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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Many recruiters lie, or avoid telling the truth until the last minute.

Its best to avoid recruiters in general. You can network on your own to find job leads - that is how recruiters find them!

Temp to hire is a scam.

Also, many companies have a policy against hiring temps or contractors for any open positions in the company.

A few of them told me they would hire me, but couldn't afford the agency fee.
There are good recruiters out there. Judge everyone based on their own behavior not the behavior of others.

Networking is the top-notch job seach approach.

Temp to hire isn't always a scam. For some people it's the right situation.

Most people don't realize if you're gonna' temp, make sure that's what you really want to do. Because you put your self in a bad position for finding full-time work.
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Unread 07-18-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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Forget about recruiters, headhunters and temp agencies.
That's a blanket statement that is not good. I tried to help people understand the recruitment, temp, etc. foolishness, but you have to realize there are good recruiters out there. You have to look at how each operates and use a good one when the situation is right.
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Unread 07-18-2010, 01:04 PM
 
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That's a blanket statement that is not good. I tried to help people understand the recruitment, temp, etc. foolishness, but you have to realize there are good recruiters out there. You have to look at how each operates and use a good one when the situation is right.

How exactly did you try to help people?? By telling them they were using the wrong approach but not offering any insight on what you think is the correct approach? Let's hear what you think they should be doing ... specifically. You are good at telling people they are doing the wrong thing but that's all you are doing. So helpful
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Unread 07-18-2010, 01:15 PM
 
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How exactly did you try to help people??

Let's hear what you think they should be doing ... specifically.
By helping them avoid mistakes I've made in the past.

I can't be specific for each person, each situation is different. I'll give you an example. To get a job once, I took the time to learn about a company. I came up with an example software algorithm that I thought would be useful to them and showed it to one of their employees at a computer club meeting. That guy asked me to come in and talk with them and I got a job.

What is so difficult for some here to understand about a job search? I'll tell ya' what, I'm beginning to see why some of you are unemployed and why its so difficult for others to explain their views.
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Unread 07-18-2010, 03:47 PM
 
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UPDATE:

So, I went to the interview. The whole interview played out and the hiring manager never once mentioned the temp-to-perm deal, so during the question portion, I brought it up. She didn't seem to even acknowledge that I had not been told about it (I phrased it well, not accusatory or anything) and basically explained it as a probation period. She says that all their entry level hires are now temp-to-perm and that as long as there are no problems, they are automatically hired at 3 months. It's not a budget issue.

I still don't know how I feel about it. We'll see if I get an offer and then I guess I'll be forced to decide. Right now I only have one possible lead, but it's for an incredibly competitive employer (Google). My boyfriend referred me and got good feedback from the recruiter and hiring manager for the position, so I know I have an interview, but there's still a lot of variables.
I am glad you asked, I bet you feel better.
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