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If you left a job on bad terms, it is better to be honest about it in the interview so there are no surprises when the current employer calls for a reference.
I don't agree - mentioning that you left a job on bad terms could hurt you. I would say just don't give those employers as references.
It's very simple, really. If you suspect that someone is vindictive and giving out a negative reference, call them yourself or have someone else call to see if that person is in fact maligning you! It's a no brainer. Send them a cease and desist letter and threaten to sue. Then give the company lots of negative reviews all over the Internet. Give them a dose of their own medicine. Some people are vindictive in this life and that is that.Fact of life! Unless you are a HARDENED lowlife scum mass murderer criminal and actually deserve a negative reference, nobody has any business giving out bad references. People do make mistakes on the job. People deserve a second chance. I see businesses screw over employees all the time. I see it in the papers or on tv constantly. The elaborate ways in which big and sometimes small companies just do all kinds of nasty, selfish things to hardworking loyal people just because they can. So absolutely no, it is NOT allright to give negative references. Even if the reference is true, the poor victim has a right to sue. People have a right to reboot their lives and start with a clean slate. Now someone evil like Jeffrey Dahmer or Bernard Madoff, ok I can see giving them bad references.
I guess you are of the belief an employer is always in the right. And no, unless the person has been charged with a crime, that employer has NO right whatsoever to blackball an individual from earning a living.
That seems to be the norm around these forums. Everything an employer says is gospel and absolute truth. There is no way they would lie or make up anything
It's not illegal but employers are careful with what they say about a former employee so they won't be accused of slander. The magic question is: Is John Doe rehireable? If the employer says no that opens the door for further inquires and that's when more information i.e. character references can be added.
It's not illegal but employers are careful with what they say about a former employee so they won't be accused of slander. The magic question is: Is John Doe rehireable? If the employer says no that opens the door for further inquires and that's when more information i.e. character references can be added.
Too bad lots of potential employers won't even bother with further inquiries. Once they hear a former employer say that someone is not rehireable, they won't go any further and will pass on that applicant. That is what the poster tonysam was addressing in his posts.
Wont a background check show the employer anyway if you leave them off? Also what if you are being hired by a state agency? Can they check your unemployment records to see if you were fired previously?
I don't think most employers rely on references much anymore. The references you provide to them are bound to be positive, or else you wouldn't provide them. And even a negative reference, or being fired, it would seem most employers would know that sometimes a job is just a bad fit, and for every "bad" employee there are just as many "bad" supervisors.
I mean, I was fired, then a year later the people who fired me were both fired and investigated for all kinds of malfeasance.
Also, many women have experienced sexual harassment and when they won't "play ball" they get fired, and I don't care what anyone says, but trying to bring charges against the bad guy and pursue a lawsuit and everything is very difficult and time-consuming. Also things can be hard to prove when it's a he-said, she-said. Better just to leave the job.
It's not illegal, but can certainly be actionable, in terms of filing suit or what have you. I've been told on several occasions that many companies have a policy of doing pretty neutral reference checks, as otherwise they could be in danger of getting sued.
Of course they can verify employment but....... is the former employer liable for defamation if they cause the former employee issues with obtaining employment based on their(former employer) negative "comments" regarding that former employee... In the past I verified employment dates but was prohibited from offering negative information regarding the reason for the ending of the employment relationship.
In America, the fact that something is supposed to violate employment law doesn't stop anyone from violating. We can probably count on our fingers the number of times a plainant has sucessfully sued an employer for defamation.
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