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I have a 4 year degree(Management), am black, not a woman, and have been seemingly shut out of the job market since I graduated(2007).
My white male neighbor(in his 40s) lost his job once, but gained another one in 8 months.
Are you sure white males are shut out of the job market by affirmative action?
So many other variables involved, it would be crazy to imply prejudice was the reason. Experience, special skills, salary, connections, etc could be reasons why he got a job in eight months.
Logic would dictate that with lower post secondary educational attainment statistics, that those who attain a bachelors or higher would have an easier time getting their foot in the door. A 70% dropout rate should leave 30% left. Only half of all students finish college overall. That leaves 15%, if that. So, if affirmative action is really scraping 2-10% of the lowest performing white males, as charles and proudmommy may suggest, where is this happening?
Then again, those who benefit most form affirmative action and welfare are white women.
So many other variables involved, it would be crazy to imply prejudice was the reason. Experience, special skills, salary, connections, etc could be reasons why he got a job in eight months.
I am aware of that, but do you know of any white males who factually know they were denied a job due to minority(not gender) preference who have more than a 2 year college education? And how long were they unemployed?
So many other variables involved, it would be crazy to imply prejudice was the reason. Experience, special skills, salary, connections, etc could be reasons why he got a job in eight months.
So many other variables involved, it would be crazy to imply affirmative action was the reason. Experience, special skills, salary, connections, etc could be reasons why the other person got a job in eight months.
The last position I filled came down to two people, a black/Hispanic female and a while female. The white female won ONLY because the minority female had a conflict that would have kept them from being able to travel for the first six months of hire. (The job requires 50% travel) Other than that, I would have hired the minority female in a New York minute. For the record, being a minority, a female, and over 40 all would have worked in her favor for this particular position.
Why the heck would you use a "" at the end of your reply to lifesprecious09? Using that smilie implies that you would be happy to hear of her tribulations in finding a job.
Otherwise, at my workplace, I have seen no discrimination against job applicants who happen to be black. As long as they meet all the qualifications of the posted job, they are seriously considered for employment.
The last position I filled came down to two people, a black/Hispanic female and a while female. The white female won ONLY because the minority female had a conflict that would have kept them from being able to travel for the first six months of hire. (The job requires 50% travel) Other than that, I would have hired the minority female in a New York minute. For the record, being a minority, a female, and over 40 all would have worked in her favor for this particular position.
Which do you fell was more qualified for the position; the black female, or the white female?
Which do you fell was more qualified for the position; the black female, or the white female?
It was pretty much a toss up. The white female had more specific experience in the industry, the black female had a broad skillset as well as experience working with a diverse demographic.
I felt the minority female had much more experience managing a variety of difficult situations--her maturity gave her the leg up, but...
She had a conflict that would have prevented her from being able to fulfill a basic requirement of the job, that is the only reason I didn't hire her.
I have a 4 year degree(Management), am black, not a woman, and have been seemingly shut out of the job market since I graduated(2007).
My white male neighbor(in his 40s) lost his job once, but gained another one in 8 months.
Are you sure white males are shut out of the job market by affirmative action?
Even if you factor out all variables other than race (such as career field, demand, etc.) I would think that, for many jobs, someone with a fair number of years of experience will likely be seen as a more qualified candidate than a recent graduate with little to no post-graduate employment history.
I know a few people who have graduated in the past few years who are having difficulty landing that first job. One who graduated with an architecture degree in 2008 has been working at Target for the past 2 years because he has been unable to find work in his field of study.
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