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Unread 04-11-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Northwest side of San Antonio
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I worked in a similar situation just about 2 months ago. I have a degree, and thought I was in the "right job." Too bad the office was full of politics and I had zero support from my supervisors or co-workers. I would eat lunch by myself and if I tried to correct things I would just be told that "that wasn't what I wanted you to do..." I was crying almost everyday. It was not healthy. Did I need the job? Yes. Did the company try to "work with me" to fix things"? Ha. Yeah. Okay. Sure. They did. After being put on a two week probationary period they decided that it wasn't good fit anymore and with some more tears, I let them fire me (not resign..that would have put my unemployment benefits into question).

However, I am happier now. I miss the people I worked for (not with). I worry about what happened. But, most of all I don't worry about crying when I get up in the morning. I haven't found a new job yet, but it will come. Sure, my unemployment was denied, but I have savings (for now...). I will (and you will too) find someone who believes in your skills and your fit. A job is much more than a job. It's about being a fit in a culture. If you cry when you go to work it just isn't a good fit. You're hurting yourself and everyone around you. It was something I realized and I'm better person for that. I hope you realize that too.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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Working smarter should mean increased productivity. Companies used to pay Industrial Engineers big bucks to figure that out.

Working harder? Sometimes not so much extra productivity and can actually decrease it.
Exactly! Thanks for making sense.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 04:28 PM
 
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I can not control the sun. I can not control the waves. I can not control many things. What I can do is enjoy the sun when it is out. I can harness the power of the waves and have a little fun as that power pushes me around. I can realize that I will live in a world that has many things that I can not controll and work around that. I know of very few people that can controll their employer. I doubt most of us or any of us have the ablity to make sure things go our way 100% of the time at our jobs. All we can controll is our little segment of the job. If it turns out that you are no longer needes then move on. It happens, has happened before, and will continue to happen in the future. Things change and the company makes changes to take part in this ever changing work environment. Unless you have equity in the company then you are only a tool that the company emplotys to get a job done. They can use you, choose not to uses you, or replace you. It is all there decision. Don't take it personal it is just business. The only guarentee that you have is that you offer to sell the company hours, days, weeks, months, or years of your life. They agree to pay you for the hours that they have used. Sometimes they also offer an extra incentive such as health benefits. That is the only promise that you have.

For me I see a bright future with the nation. We are a resilient bunch us American Citizens. We always seem to get back up and become more successfull then in the past. It will happen again and the economy will rebound to the time where this is all a memory.
Aha, then why aren't you snapping up one of those bargains in Surprise? I notice you've gone from soon to be to visit.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 06:34 PM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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".....That is the only promise that you have...."
Really? A job offer is not a promise. Promises are broken all the time. That's why lawyers, big corporations and the criminal justice system all make tons of money. It's the nature of people to break promises - "promises are made to be broken." A job offer is not a promise. It is a contract. It can be a written or it can be a verbal contract - but it's definitely not a promise. If someone promises to pay me but doesn't provide a W4 and other required paperwork, then it's a waste of my time. He can promise to pay me but if he underpays me or doesn't pay at all, then I have to sue or collect my money by intimidation/blackmail. Promises need to be in writing - either by required employment paperwork or contracts. Words without some kind of enforceable paper are useless.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 08:47 PM
 
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Uh, what? You put in for a lay off?

How are you still stressing if that's the case. I mean you're sole responsibility is to not screw up so badly that you can be denied unemployment benefits, right? Sounds like a blast. Go in, shoot the breeze and pretend to work. How is it even possible to stress about being laid off when are asking to be? Or do I just understand what you mean by "put in"?
we put in for it...but no guarantee. Have to keep waiting to get approved and they keep pushing that date back...so it seems never ending.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 08:51 PM
 
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I wonder this as well.

Also, OP... how is your job search going?

I am "shooting for the stars" right now hoping to find something great. I get interviews but nothing past that. I had one offer but the enviroment and wage was worse than present. Once I find out if I'm gone..I'll get back to planet Earth and look for any job I can find. But while I have a job I want to see what luck might bring.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I cry everyday on my way to work. It has affected every part of my life. The stress of layoffs have hit everyone, you can't trust anyone and I just sit there all day and hope no one talks to me. I used to love my job, but everything has changed. The company has changed. I dread going in everyday, to the point that I cry. I still have 4 weeks until I find out if I got the layoff I put in for. If I don't get it, I'll be devestated. How do you deal with a work enviroment that is no longer good. You can feel the tension in everyone the second you open the door. I'm miserable. How do I get through these 4 weeks?
you put in for a layoff?
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Unread 04-11-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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you put in for a layoff?
Yes. I was planning on leaving in the next 6 months anyways. And it's a year severance. Opposed to the 24 weeks I would get if they do involutary layoff after the 6 month period. Which is a big possibility because of outsourcing. I was asked if I would like to volunteer as my job was "possibly in jeopardy in the next 6 months". AKA I'm on the short list.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Yes. I was planning on leaving in the next 6 months anyways. And it's a year severance. Opposed to the 24 weeks I would get if they do involutary layoff after the 6 month period. Which is a big possibility because of outsourcing. I was asked if I would like to volunteer as my job was "possibly in jeopardy in the next 6 months". AKA I'm on the short list.
I never in my life heard of requesting a layoff
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Unread 04-12-2011, 06:02 AM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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I never in my life heard of requesting a layoff
You know, Grasshopper, you really must stay ahead of the game if you're ever going to move ahead as an employment advisor. It's not unusual at all even though you never in your life heard of it.
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