Foul language at work (profit, company, wages, claim)

[jeepgirl27]

Originally Posted by nightcrawler

So what, so she used bad language, get over it!!!


So it is IBM, big whoop de doo, it's professional, so what, so she cursed, maybe she was having a bad day....it happens....

and you know what, cursing or using a bad word or two is one of the perks about being an adult, you are allowed too. LOL. Who the Hell wants to be repremanded about using a few choice words.

Who would need you to complain about it.....

Apparently it wasn't a bad day.
And no your not allowed to do it here.
This isn't the local bar or the shop, where it wouldn't be a big deal.
I may have to contact an executive concerning issues they may have with their system, When I'm working with network issues they dont want to hear someon in the background using foul language, what kind of image do you think that gives IBM?
It may ok for your line of work, but it isn't here.

[jeepgirl27]

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Your so called facts do not pertain to IBM
no my job isn't low-level admin.
is yours?
I have the education to do my job. Thats why I was hired
Having my bachelors in computer engineering has me way above low-level admin positions
Im proud of my degree and I will never let anyone belittle it.

[jeepgirl27]

Originally Posted by nightcrawler

well maybe she doesnt have common sense and if you are that much older than her, maybe you could treat it like a mother trying to explain to a child that this is not the place for that, in a nice tone as to not be condescending.....maybe then she would appreciate the guidance

your the adult, stop acting like a cry baby because of language.

Some lady told her to cool it, it wasn't worth losing her job
She came back with a negative response.

[nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by jeepgirl27

Apparently it wasn't a bad day.
And no your not allowed to do it here.
This isn't the local bar or the shop, where it wouldn't be a big deal.
I may have to contact an executive concerning issues they may have with their system, When I'm working with network issues they dont want to hear someon in the background using foul language, what kind of image do you think that gives IBM?
It may ok for your line of work, but it isn't here.

Oh my goodness an image, oh no, what will the world think....


Just do your own job and let the bosses take care of her if it is such a problem, do you have nothing better to do at work than snitch on a 20 year old???

I would say as long as you are doing a good job and doing the right thing, that is her problem, not yours.

I really would not get involved in a 20 year old. We have had the younger children here as well, and a lot of them do not last, as they have no clue about working in an office. I could go on, but i won't ...

If I was you, I really would just ignore her, she will only make herself look bad, so if you are doing your job correctly and conduct yourself in a business manner, you will have nothing to worry about.

[jeepgirl27]

Originally Posted by nightcrawler

well maybe she doesnt have common sense and if you are that much older than her, maybe you could treat it like a mother trying to explain to a child that this is not the place for that, in a nice tone as to not be condescending.....maybe then she would appreciate the guidance

your the adult, stop acting like a cry baby because of language.

Do you think when I recieve an email from a client stating they are having system problems and I have to call them to help bring their system back up, they appreciate someone in the background cursing really loud ? No they accept professional adults to work here, Do you know they can turn around and say I dont want IBM to work on our systems they are very unprofessional. We lose clients..no systems to work on..may mean layoffs.
So yes when it comes to my job..I take it very personal.
And your acting like a fool if you think it doesn't have a major negative impact on the work enviroment.

[jeepgirl27]

Originally Posted by nightcrawler

Oh my goodness an image, oh no, what will the world think....


Just do your own job and let the bosses take care of her if it is such a problem, do you have nothing better to do at work than snitch on a 20 year old???

I would say as long as you are doing a good job and doing the right thing, that is her problem, not yours.

I really would not get involved in a 20 year old. We have had the younger children here as well, and a lot of them do not last, as they have no clue about working in an office. I could go on, but i won't ...

If I was you, I really would just ignore her, she will only make herself look bad, so if you are doing your job correctly and conduct yourself in a business manner, you will have nothing to worry about.

Apparently no..It dont work that way.
Not in my line of work...

[truckingbronco]

Originally Posted by jeepgirl27

Do you think when I recieve an email from a client stating they are having system problems and I have to call them to help bring their system back up, they appreciate someone in the background cursing really loud ? No they accept professional adults to work here, Do you know they can turn around and say I dont want IBM to work on our systems they are very unprofessional. We lose clients..no systems to work on..may mean layoffs.
So yes when it comes to my job..I take it very personal.
And your acting like a fool if you think it doesn't have a major negative impact on the work enviroment.

Has this ever happened? I've never heard anything other than unintelligible muffled voices in the background when I'm on the phone with a call center.

The fact that you're still talking about this a day later on an internet forum, during work hours, is...well, immature and a waist of your employers time. For your sake I hope no one tattles.

[Z3N1TH 0N3]

Originally Posted by jeepgirl27

Your so called facts do not pertain to IBM
no my job isn't low-level admin.
is yours?
I have the education to do my job. Thats why I was hired
Having my bachelors in computer engineering has me way above low-level admin positions
Im proud of my degree and I will never let anyone belittle it.

I think I asked this before, but where did you go to school?

[num1baby]

Originally Posted by jeepgirl27

Apparently no..It dont work that way.
Not in my line of work...

I am going to respond to this with something I said a couple of pages back.

Originally Posted by num1baby

I would have talked to her first. You keep comparing it to High School. You are right. This girl is barely out of High School and hasn't been in the professional world very long. You could have just approached her as kind of a mentor and let her know how things are done in the professional world. You can still do that.

I think that a lot of people forget that the young 20 somethings are new to the professional world. What we know from years of experience and consider common sense is new and sometimes strange to these young people. I consider it common sense to not use that language at work, but this girl is coming from High School where it is usually very common to use that language. She may also have parents that spoke that way in front of her and she considers using that language to be grown up.

I never think it hurts to take a newbie under the wing and kind of teach them the ins and outs of the professional world in general and then the smaller things that are specific to your company. Including telling them that in the professional world you should speak with someone if you have an issue with something they did before running to the boss.

I know that someone else confronted her and didn't receive a good response. Could that possibly be the way that the situation was handled? Was she confronted and chastised in front of a group of people? Or was she taken aside and given a "professional tip" on not using that language. If it was the chastising, I am not surprised she came back in a negative way. Most people would. That's embarrassing. Especially to someone so new to the adult world and is trying to prove that she is a grown-up.

I know that with my younger employees, I get a much better response if I take them aside, don't make a big deal about it, but give them "tips" for future use. This goes for inappropriate language, clothing, behavior, etc. Hey, whatever it takes to keep the workday moving smoothly and the issues get resolved.

[manderly6]

You certainly get the award for mentioning your company name the most in any thread. Does it really matter that it is IBM. We get the point. It isn't a bar. But it isn't more or less professional than any other similar company.