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Do more research. Find something you think you will like and be good at. Talk to someone who is in that job, to understand what is involved, growth potential etc..and what doing it day to day is really like. Get the right educations/skills/certification ... get as much hands on experience as you can.
From reading the majority of his posts, I can gather that the OP's idea of career research is choosing a career/job at random and creating a thread about it. He was already dead set on a career in urban planning, psychology, criminal justice, social work and teaching. For every job, he acts like it's the one, until about a week later when he discovers something new. He actually reminds me a lot of my ten year old cousin in that respect.
From reading the majority of his posts, I can gather that the OP's idea of career research is choosing a career/job at random and creating a thread about it. He was already dead set on a career in urban planning, psychology, criminal justice, social work and teaching. For every job, he acts like it's the one, until about a week later when he discovers something new. He actually reminds me a lot of my ten year old cousin in that respect.
You know I am getting really sick of your comments. Please take this response as to no more remarks I consider offensive.
I am just searching around. But I still want to go into drug and alcohol counselling.
When you post a thread on an internet forum, you are opening it up to everyone's opinions, suggestions and concerns. If you don't like reading my criticism, then don't post. There are many other resources you could use to gather career advice.
I am not trying to pick on you, I just don't understand what you're doing. You post a new thread highlighting an entirely different job every few weeks and usually act like that is the job you want.
Most people earn their degree when they know what field they want to go into and then go from there. From this thread, it seems like you're talking about getting a liberal arts degree (in English) and then trying to get into other fields. English is usually one of those degrees that you need to get a doctorate in order to put it to use (for teaching). Most people seem to have trouble doing much with a bachelors in English. So, I feel like you should really know what you want to go into before you get a degree, but that seems like a never-ending battle with your inner-self.
I heard people use english to go into sales, be a librarian, or teach english in a high risk school or abroad.
I heard people use english to go into sales, be a librarian, or teach english in a high risk school or abroad.
Successful sales is mainly a personality thing, you are either good at sales or you aren't. If you are grooming yourself for corporate level sales go major in marketing and learn to play golf, otherwise just get to it and forget accumulating college debt.
Successful sales is mainly a personality thing, you are either good at sales or you aren't. If you are grooming yourself for corporate level sales go major in marketing and learn to play golf, otherwise just get to it and forget accumulating college debt.
Given the OP's reaction ... he does not have the thick skin required to succeed in sales. Nor does he have the research and analytical skills to succeed in marketing.
Thanks CoolSocks ... it looks like he is one of those people who looks at "HOT CAREER" lists and thinks it's a sure thing, EASY, $$$ career to succeed in.
That's why I think those list are useless...because all they do is dilute the market with un-qualified, badly trained candidates who has no clue. Only thing that benefits from those lists are for profits schools that supposedly train you for those "GREAT PAY", "IN DEMAND" careers.
IT is the best industry for salary. There are a few choices in IT fields, mostly are software engineer, hardware engineer, IT specialists, programmer. here are a guide on IT careers:
JobGuideWeb.com (http://jobguiding.com/it-jobs/it-skills/programming.html - broken link)
I've interviewed dozens of people with all kinds of certs. But they matter little if you can't tell me what you've accomplished in your previous jobs that make you a good candidate for what I need.
Certs can add to your experience/accomplishments. But they will never substitute for them. In that sense, getting one in hoping to break into the industry is probably not the best use of resources.
Yea, its the old double edged sword of everyone always wanting a "seasoned professional" instead of giving someone a chance.
What would you recommend as the alternative, don't bother getting the certs and show you have an interest for learning new stuff?
In my area of IT there is a never ending list of things that can be learned/change everyday (virtualization). Now I go out and get an Oracle certification, because maybe I'm interested -- however my day job is so filled with virtualization stuff there is no opportunity to learn Oracle except in my own time. At least the cert would show interest.
In IT, no one knows it all. You just have to be prepared for never ending learning. No one cares that I was an C64/ML coder and AmigaDOS pro in the 80s and Netware pro in the 90s...for instance. However, the point is to show you can adapt.
Yea, its the old double edged sword of everyone always wanting a "seasoned professional" instead of giving someone a chance.
What would you recommend as the alternative, don't bother getting the certs and show you have an interest for learning new stuff?
In my area of IT there is a never ending list of things that can be learned/change everyday (virtualization). Now I go out and get an Oracle certification, because maybe I'm interested -- however my day job is so filled with virtualization stuff there is no opportunity to learn Oracle except in my own time. At least the cert would show interest.
In IT, no one knows it all. You just have to be prepared for never ending learning. No one cares that I was an C64/ML coder and AmigaDOS pro in the 80s and Netware pro in the 90s...for instance. However, the point is to show you can adapt.
With all do respect, hiring resources is part of business. Most people are not running charities or a learning center. I certainly don't have anything against giving people a chance if something clicks and a potential is recognized. But I don't think that would be the primary goal to filling a position.
And I completely agree with you. You have to be prepared to know the stuff. That's why I think just getting a cert for the sake of getting it (and thinking you can get a better job) is misguided. In your case, you're doing it because there is a genuine interest. Its different if you saw that your buddy is getting 150K as an Oracle admin, and think that if you got certified in Oracle, you can too...
That line of thinking is what I'm referring to. This was popularized by the training center ads that said "get a <insert cert> and you will make 85K".
As well as the high IT salaries in the mid-late 1990's.
Today - thanks to the dot com bust, you have a ton of experienced IT professionals out there competing for less jobs. The skill sets have also matured a bit where the positions have more responsibility today than they had 10 years ago.
I'm not saying certs are worthless, but the reasoning to obtaining one has to be realistic. It should be an investment to better one's skills/experience, not a requirement to get a better job (although that could be a payoff of said investment).
With all do respect, hiring resources is part of business. Most people are not running charities or a learning center. I certainly don't have anything against giving people a chance if something clicks and a potential is recognized. But I don't think that would be the primary goal to filling a position.
And I completely agree with you. You have to be prepared to know the stuff. That's why I think just getting a cert for the sake of getting it (and thinking you can get a better job) is misguided. In your case, you're doing it because there is a genuine interest. Its different if you saw that your buddy is getting 150K as an Oracle admin, and think that if you got certified in Oracle, you can too...
That line of thinking is what I'm referring to. This was popularized by the training center ads that said "get a <insert cert> and you will make 85K".
As well as the high IT salaries in the mid-late 1990's.
Today - thanks to the dot com bust, you have a ton of experienced IT professionals out there competing for less jobs. The skill sets have also matured a bit where the positions have more responsibility today than they had 10 years ago.
I'm not saying certs are worthless, but the reasoning to obtaining one has to be realistic. It should be an investment to better one's skills/experience, not a requirement to get a better job (although that could be a payoff of said investment).
My experience has been that the employer will pay to send you to TRAINING for a week for the tool "flavor of the week" if you make a good impression and show a sense of accomplishment from previous projects. I was put on a project to create a site in ColdFusion and had never heard of it before. It did not matter. You can learn to use a new tool in less than a week.
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