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Old 06-22-2011, 02:59 PM
Location: Southern California
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My friend doesn't have a college degree, so I'm trying to think of something she can get into that pays pretty well, but you're not in college/training for long. The thought of a mailman came to mind a while back.

How hard is the exam & what things do you have to do exactly? From start to finish, how long would it take comeone to become one?

(BTW, no one say real estate. That's not my friend's thing.)
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:50 PM
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I don't think the USPS is taking on new employees.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:00 PM
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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It is a dying industry as far as I can see. In our area they are consolidating offices.

Another company that has consolidated offices is Southern California Gas Company. They used to have a big payment office in Oxnard, CA. Now they have a 2 person office with a 24 hour computer station that you can pay at.

I would say that with more and more people doing things online the need for some jobs is diminishing.

Why not look at other kind of companies that work online. Affiliate marketing is one that doesn't take a lot of education and you can be up and running in a short time.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:31 PM
Location: San Francisco, CA
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With the massive state and federal budget cuts that are coming now and the already dismally eroded state of the postal service in the face of private competition and internet usage, I'd say this is about the worst time anyone could consider getting into this line of work.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:28 PM
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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I agree with the others, they are talking about eliminating Saturday service so many more would be losing their jobs, and they have already gone to
gang boxes and car routes to reduce the number of carriers. They usually hire only temporary relief carriers, and only a few of those.
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Old 06-23-2011, 05:57 AM
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It is like the toll collectors on turnpikes. Their numbers are steadily decreasing but they will hire temporaries from time to time to relieve shortages.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:51 AM
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The government exams are very easy, have to be an idiot to fail. But that's not the issue. The issue is that
1.) Priority is given to veterans, etc. Have you ever seen a kid out of high school or college as a mailman?
2.) As pointed out, it's a dying industry. They aren't immune to layoffs.
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Old 06-23-2011, 10:56 AM
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USPS may not be hiring, but what about UPS and FedEx. But I think that the latter two require their mailmen/women to be able to lift heavy objects. Can your friend do it?
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Old 06-23-2011, 11:50 AM
Location: Pure Michigan!
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I was curious, so I just went to the USPS website, clicked on the "careers" tab, and did a search for mail delivery jobs in California. Every single position (and there weren't very many, when you consider how huge CA is) said "temporary relief" for its status. IOW, no permanent, full-time mail carrier positions are open in CA right now, based on what it says on the USPS website.

I think your friend will probably have to find something else. A PP mentioned UPS or FedEx. I worked at UPS when I was in college, and unless things have changed, almost all of their positions were part-time casual, with no benefits. I was working 15 hrs./week as a sorter in one of their distribution centers. I'm not sure how to get into management there.

You mentioned that your friend is a female, so this may not be her thing either, but getting a commercial drivers license doesn't take all that much training, and truck drivers can make pretty good money for not having to go to college.
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:14 PM
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That has been the norm for the USPS for several years, the only new hiring done is for the temporary "casual" employee. People generally don't get hired as full-time regular employees in the Post Office [at least, not as carriers or clerks.] In the old days, they'd start out as a casual, then become a part-time flexible if they were lucky, and then if they were extremely lucky and had been around long enough, they'd make full time regular and have the typical 40 hour week with good pay and benefits. This process usually took years unless you had an unusual situation.

The issue these days is that generally people are not going to ever attain full time regular status or probably even part time flexible status. It is still a good option for people who want to make extra money and are willing to work varying hours and shifts, but the odds of making it a "real" career are pretty much non-existent.
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