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Old 11-05-2011, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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that they perpetuate the unwritten rule of not discussing salaries with other employees as a means of control. There's no reason in the world why employees shouldn't discuss their salaries with each other except that the boss wouldn't like if you did it.

that 90% of "training" isn't really training but rather it is "liability release". You aren't attending sexual harassment, ethics, and ergonomic training; you are relieving the employer of liability when you signed the attendance roster. The employer doesn't care if you actually attend; they just want your signature and employee ID on the attendance roster.

that you are "rated on a curve" and the methods used to rate you actually conflict with being a team player. They more (knowledge, techniques, skills) you share with your fellow employees, the higher on the curve they become relative to you.

that working unpaid overtime is what a dedicated employee does when it really means it is what a sucker does.

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Old 11-05-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Correct, Bluesmama, by and large, H/R employees are the least ethical people one will ever meet.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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HR is what wrong with da america!
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:00 PM
 
Location: north america
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that many times they only act like they know what they're doing.

that they're not reporting your income as they should be even though you get a wage statement at the end of the year.

that they're afraid you will find out how relatively easy it can be to calculate the deductions that should be taken out of your salary.

that you'll add up all the deductions shown on your paystub to see if that plus the net equals the gross amount and that each week all the amounts add on to each other correctly. And that that's the amount that should be on the end of year statement you file with taxes.

that osha can be called anonymously, if the working conditions are questionably unsafe.

that you're incorrectly classifed as salaried, exempt or independent contractor thereby saving the employer a nice chuck of change on overtime and payroll tax.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:02 PM
 
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that many times they only act like they know what they're doing.

that they're not reporting your income as they should be even though you get a wage statement at the end of the year.

that they're afraid you will find out how relatively easy it can be to calculate the deductions that should be taken out of your salary.

that you'll add up all the deductions shown on your paystub to see if that plus the net equals the gross amount and that each week all the amounts add on to each other correctly.

that osha can be called anonymously, if the working conditions are questionably unsafe.

that you're incorrectly classifed as salaried, exempt or independent contractor thereby saving the employer a nice chuck of change on overtime and payroll tax.
You seem to be specific about one shady company... these certainly are not the norm.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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That the only way the employer was able to start their business is because they inherited or borrowed money.
The inherited money part is almost definitely not true. It's just something people tell themselves to make themselves feel better.

Not sure how you would have a problem with someone borrowing money from a bank to start a business. It carries it's own risks and limitations.

And besides, the best way to obtain and create capital would come from utilizing synthetic equity and scalability.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: north america
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that if you did not sign up for medical and other benefits that you should get the value added in salary

that they hope you sign up for every plan and option they have because that means a smaller payroll check to pay out.

that you're probably being misclassified into a lower job category on their workers comp policy in order to save on that insurance cost.

that employee drug testing is of benefit to a company, to lower health insurance costs, not for safety reasons.

that payroll laws that went into effect were ignored because they were too much trouble to implement and you would never have known about it anyway.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:23 PM
 
Location: NJ
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":that they hope you sign up for every plan and option they have because that means a smaller payroll check to pay out."

The little dirty secret is if a $1k per week employee pays $100/wk Health Care and $50 for his/her 401k portion, employee saves SS & Medicare on that $150. That is stupid tax policy,as neither should benefit the employer.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:28 PM
 
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":that they hope you sign up for every plan and option they have because that means a smaller payroll check to pay out."

The little dirty secret is if a $1k per week employee pays $100/wk Health Care and $50 for his/her 401k portion, employee saves SS & Medicare on that $150. That is stupid tax policy,as neither should benefit the employer.
Well, health care being connected to the employer is the first problem.
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:32 PM
 
Location: NJ
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True, but the employer should be charged SS & Medicare on a pre deduction , not post deduction basis. Otherwise, for every $100k extra they charge employers for Health Care, they reduce their payroll taxes another $7,650.
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