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Old 02-15-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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Doesnt matter if you think of Jewish as ethnicity or religion, there is no possible way someone can be half jewish. Only a child of a Jewish mother, is considered Jewish based on the law of matrilineal descent.

As for OP, if you feel uncomfortable with this type of talk, bring it up to your manager, and if they know what they are doing, they will know how to address it and keep it confidential.
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:52 PM
 
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LOL could an agnostic in a jewish family be considered half jewish?
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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How are they half Jewish?
Uh...just like how people can be half asian, half, black, half, white, half mexican. I don't understand how that's so confusing.

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It is an ethnicity also. There are certain genetic defects in the Ashkenazi Jews, for example. However, you're also right - it's a religion also. I'm a white, Irish Jew.
Right, being jewish isn't just a religion. It's an ethnicity too.
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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Uh...just like how people can be half asian, half, black, half, white, half mexican. I don't understand how that's so confusing.



Right, being jewish isn't just a religion. It's an ethnicity too.

Doesnt matter if you think of Jewish as ethnicity or religion, there is no possible way someone can be half jewish. Only a child of a Jewish mother, is considered Jewish based on the law of matrilineal descent.

Hello!!!!
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Doesnt matter if you think of Jewish as ethnicity or religion, there is no possible way someone can be half jewish. Only a child of a Jewish mother, is considered Jewish based on the law of matrilineal descent.
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I understand matrilineal descent...having a Jewish mother, regardless of the father's background/heritage is Jewish. So anyone born to a Jewish mother is Jewish...not considered a halfie. We're talking about the converse. My sister is black. Her husband is Jewish. So her children are mixed. Her husband doesn't identify as white, he identifies as Jewish. My sister identifes as black. So her children are half black half Jewish.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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Doesnt matter if you think of Jewish as ethnicity or religion, there is no possible way someone can be half jewish. Only a child of a Jewish mother, is considered Jewish based on the law of matrilineal descent.

Hello!!!!
I don't know why you're repeating the same thing you said above. If that's what you want to believe, that's great. I've heard that bit of info as well LONG ago & a ton of biracial people would disagree. If they want to say they're 1/2 this & 1/2 that, why is it irking YOU so much? Anyway, it's nice that numerous documents these days say CHECK AS MANY AS APPLY when they ask what a person's ethnicity is. Even way before the documents said that, people marked all their ethnicities anyway.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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I don't know why you're repeating the same thing you said above. If that's what you want to believe, that's great. I've heard that bit of info as well LONG ago & a ton of biracial people would disagree. If they want to say they're 1/2 this & 1/2 that, why is it irking YOU so much? Anyway, it's nice that numerous documents these days say CHECK AS MANY AS APPLY when they ask what a person's ethnicity is. Even way before the documents said that, people marked all their ethnicities anyway.

Its because thats one of the differences between Jewish people and other ethnicities. You cannot be half-Jewish, but you can be half anything else. Get it yet?

The Mishnah (Kiddushin 3:12) states that, to be a Jew, one must be either the child of a Jewish mother or a convert to Judaism, (ger tzedek, "righteous convert"). The Talmud (Kiddushin 68b) derives this law from the Torah, specifically Deuteronomy 7:3–4[citation needed]: "Thy daughter thou shalt not give to his son, nor shalt thou take his daughter to thy son. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods." This rule was clearly accepted by the 2nd century CE, with virtually no debate over it appearing in the Talmud.[1] Orthodox opinion regards this rule as dating from receipt of the Torah at Mount Sinai, but most non-Orthodox scholars regard it as originating either at the time of Ezra (4th Century BCE) or during the period of Roman rule in the 1st–2nd centuries CE.

Thus, a child of a Jewish mother and a different ethnicity father, is Jewish. A child of Jewish father and a different ethnicity mother is not. Not even half. You cannot convert to another religion half way either, concluding you cannot be half-jewish. Hope this helps.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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Ok now that the freak show has concluded, we can move on.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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There are several racist comments in my place of work. The comments are mostly directed at immigrants and minority races. Why so much blatant racism in the melting pot that is the United States?
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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There are several racist comments in my place of work. The comments are mostly directed at immigrants and minority races. Why so much blatant racism in the melting pot that is the United States?
It's not just in the USA. And it's not just 'racist.'

Some people don't understand (or don't want to understand) anyone different. They already have 'preconceived notions' based on stereotypes.

You can have 'regional bias' as well. I have lived in several states and abroad and because I have a somewhat (but not super heavy) NY accent I have felt people 'treated me oddly' at least until they got to know me better.

In one place they just didn't understand my 'style' of working because as a Native NY I am a very high strung, driven person. Living in a more 'laid back' place they just thought I was 'hyper' or 'upset.'

When I lived in the UK, I was 'supposedly a typical American' every time I opened my mouth. It was a heavy burden to carry, people judging your country and your 'culture' by you because you were the only American in town.
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