The economy being improved = no excuse to be unemployed (job offers, average, profit)

[Ninetails]

Exactly, so the jobs have comeback. So if a person is unemployed today
do they even have a good reason to be that way.

[Gatornation]

Originally Posted by Ninetails

Exactly, so the jobs have comeback. So if a person is unemployed today
do they even have a good reason to be that way.

Coming back very slowly. It's not a black and white question.

What many on this board fail to realize is that there are a lot of people without a job who don't have relevant skills in today's job market.

[redroses777]

Originally Posted by Ro2113

The unemployed rate has declined, but not eliminated entirely. Many people don't have an excuse not to look for work but there are going to be some people who will be unemployed regardless.

People are giving up looking for work. A lot of people don't want to work the low wage jobs. Although, I think it is better if one can work at something, because it will be dang near impossible to find a decent job if one has been unemployed 99 weeks or more. This will be the case even if there are good jobs available. Places don't like to hire the unemployed. I, unfortunately, learned this the hard way.

I just accepted a low-paying, temp job and I have a degree so it is possible for college grads to get these jobs. I think that if one takes that McJob, then volunteering can always help build skills and get them out of fast food hell. Although, being in fast food hell is better than being in unemployment hell.

A friend of mine had been out of work for over a year. Finally, she took a job at Subway making sandwiches for minimum wage. Anyhow, she had been struggling to find work and was stuck at her parents house. She found a good job within weeks of taking the job at Subway. Being employed makes the world of difference when job searching.

[bobtn]

Gaternation"a lot of people without a job who don't have relevant skills in today's job market"

redroses7777" A lot of people don't want to work the low wage jobs. Although, I think it is better if one can work at something, because it will be dang near impossible to find a decent job if one has been unemployed 99 weeks or more"

I think we found peanut butter and jelly, between these two sentences, we have a match. When the unemployment checks end, those low wage jobs represent a leap in income. If one does not have relevent skills, they are in the same position the 16 year old of yesteryear was at their first job, in terms of offering skills which would merit a meaningful wage. So by starting again at menial jobs, they can gain skills, and hopefully up the road, advance to better jobs.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by Ninetails

Exactly, so the jobs have comeback. So if a person is unemployed today
do they even have a good reason to be that way.

Well then why do you have another thread on here entitled "No Jobs Anywhere Please Help Me". From last month.

You go on to say you live in Gary, Indiana. Why didn't you go to the Ford plant in Chicago. You're not far from there?

[andywire]

Originally Posted by frizzo100

I'm not talking about $60 - $80k. I'm talking about jobs that expect you to bust your ass for a measly 9 or 10 dollars an hour. I've seen welding jobs advertised that paid this little and they run the same ads every week. It's no wonder they can't get anybody to work for them. I'm more than qualified (12 years of experience) but when I was out of work, I never once considered applying for them. I'd rather flip burgers for those wages.

They run the ads every week because once they find a guy willing to work for that, it takes about 2 days for the company to figure out he cannot weld work a s**t. People aren't gonna starve for these types of jobs, nor should they be expected to.

I've seen $12-$14 offers for lead production machinists, which is an extremely stressful job that often involved working 70-80 hours a week. Needless to say, those ads stay up for a very long time. Sometimes I wonder, are these ads some kind of joke? I would rather cut lawns for $10 an hour than do a job like that for starvation wages. I donno what they are teaching in business school these days, but there are a lot of companies out there that need to hurry up and die, so they can make room for those worth that can compete without racing to the bottom.

This country needs to get back to paying people a fair wage for GOOD quality work. Stop beating around the bush and hiring any nitwit who will work cheap. Dysfunctional people lead to dysfunctional workplaces, which leads to garbage goods and services that no one wants to pay good money for. Smart people who do good work are not interested in slave wages, they always find a better way to pay the bills.

[andywire]

Originally Posted by TRC2k11

I agree...

While unemployed in Georgia for 14 months from 2009 till early 2011 I saw quite a few jobs ads in my field (CNC machining) that offered horrible wages of $8 or $9 per hour.

One job I called about the guy over the phone even said "We set up the machine for you, all you do is hit the start button." Well that's fine and dandy, but you are probably looking for a button pusher fresh out of high school not someone with 10 years experience in setup and programming.

I ended up accepting a job in WA state for a whole lot more for running the same type machines in the aerospace industry.

I left Michigan for the same reason. $10-$12 jobs for PROGRAMMERS! They try to say how the job won't be demanding, and it's a laid back environment... Well, I gotta eat buddy. Now those jobs are paying quite a bit better from what I have seen... Saw some nice $25-$30/hr jobs last weekend. I think the employers took the hint when we found other, more lucrative ways to occupy our time.

[oberon_1]

Originally Posted by Ninetails

So apparently manufacturing jobs are back in many hard
hit regions. Low skilled people are getting hired almost instantly
from what I hear. Does this mean the unemployed no longer
have a excuse to not have a job. Does it look bad on their part
that plants are hiring while they collect unemployment checks. Let's
discuss.

Duke, on what planet do you live?

[oberon_1]

Originally Posted by andywire

They run the ads every week because once they find a guy willing to work for that, it takes about 2 days for the company to figure out he cannot weld work a s**t. People aren't gonna starve for these types of jobs, nor should they be expected to.

I've seen $12-$14 offers for lead production machinists, which is an extremely stressful job that often involved working 70-80 hours a week. Needless to say, those ads stay up for a very long time. Sometimes I wonder, are these ads some kind of joke? I would rather cut lawns for $10 an hour than do a job like that for starvation wages. I donno what they are teaching in business school these days, but there are a lot of companies out there that need to hurry up and die, so they can make room for those worth that can compete without racing to the bottom.

This country needs to get back to paying people a fair wage for GOOD quality work. Stop beating around the bush and hiring any nitwit who will work cheap. Dysfunctional people lead to dysfunctional workplaces, which leads to garbage goods and services that no one wants to pay good money for. Smart people who do good work are not interested in slave wages, they always find a better way to pay the bills.

That's the reason some companies keep constant ads with open positions. Its a phenomena unknown before: open positions in parallel with high unemployment. They aren't hiring every newbie. They expect skilled workforce for Chinese wages or alternatively, one employee in place of five.

[lovetheduns]

Originally Posted by Swan Dive

What!? I can't believe I actually read this. LOLOLOL

I am gathering you did not read the corresponding link.

As stated earlier--- there are multiple levels of labor utilization measurements. U-3 is the official.

For what it is worth-- all numbers of unemployment (included discouraged workers have been dropping).