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Old 03-01-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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She is frustrated for Christ sakes. Do you think the OP is a machine? That she should have no emotions? She has to vent somewhere.
Did you read my second post? I wasn't commenting on the fact that the OP is pissed, the attitude I was talking about is the one where the OP feels entitled to a job because she has a college degree and an internship.

Being frustrated is 100% justified.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:07 PM
 
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Did you read my second post? I wasn't commenting on the fact that the OP is pissed, the attitude I was talking about is the one where the OP feels entitled to a job because she has a college degree and an internship.

Being frustrated is 100% justified.
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I did everything right I dont understand! I did the multii-internships,i went to the top school, i got a real major, i got experience in college, i got the grades..and have applied to over 565 jobs and i'm just tired of not working..
Yeah that sounds like a real attitude of entitlement. That word is being flung around so much that it has apparently lost all meaning. Entitlement would be sitting on your ass and expecting everything to be handed to you.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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Whatever you do don't put that ...on request line. Rick Santorum or his followers would blacklist you for that.
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Old 03-01-2012, 04:20 PM
 
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Because retail stores hire people with great personalities.
Replace great personality with outgoing, fake a$$ kisser who has a great ability to BS and you might have something. But, that goes for virtually every position. If I knew how to act, I would have had several job offers by now.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Once you take a low paying job say $9 an hour It will follow you and your next job will offer you $10 an hour even if the range is $40-50K

Besides at this point I am looking for a career change or to work for the govt. My love of science is long gone. Also i doubt I can teach a subject that I have no passion left for and don't want to deal with misbehaving students nor obnoxious parents.
I wouldn't say that's true. In Michigan, I lost my good paying full time job and took a job at $11/hr to tide things over. Also got a part time $12/hr job. Ended up moving out of state for a much better wage and have been working there since.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Yeah that sounds like a real attitude of entitlement. That word is being flung around so much that it has apparently lost all meaning. Entitlement would be sitting on your ass and expecting everything to be handed to you.
People need to quit the whining and move on to plan B. We operate in capitalism. You can do whatever you think is right, and there are no guarantees that those efforts will yeild any reward. That's the way capitalism works. Everyone has the freedom to take risks to achieve greater upside potential, but it doesn't always get you anything. Just like businesses can go bankrupt, including good honest businesses, people can go bankrupt by playing by the rules and doing what they think is right. If you want guaranteed success, as a messure of how everyone else is doing in your realm, than socialism might be a more ideal form of economy for you. I'll take the system we have any day, even when the cards are not in my favor.

Now, regarding entitlement... I applaud any effort to better position one's self for success. If you were to ask me though, a sense of entitlement would include one making an effort and taking risk, and automatically expecting positive results. Always have a plan B. If you were so confident that you thought your first attempt should rightfully net the expected results, that does seem like an entitlement issue. I expected good things because I tried... Just doesn't work that way.

We've all been kicked around a bit. Sometimes, you just gotta brush the dust off and give it another go.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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I have a degree in civil engineering from a top 25 university, my E.I.T. (engineer-in-training) registration and have been unemployed for 40 months since I was laid off. I am up to twenty something interviews now, and have been a finalist on several occassions, but haven't been able to cross the finish line with an offer. I have many distinguished accomplishments in my life, but if I am able to secure an offer in my field, it will be, by far, the biggest accomplishment in my life. And, no, you can't apply to lower positions in your field (or even outside of your field) because they will either see you as overqualified or lacking experience. For example, I know some CAD, but I am unable to get a job as a CAD technician because I don't know it as well as the CAD technicians who attended drafting school for it.
The Official Guide to Finding a Job During Hard Economic Times would be excellent book for you to read. It helped give me some good advice. It addresses everything from taking a survival job, taking a lower level job in your field, and working on getting back into your field. I would recommend this book to anyone who is unemployed. It is a great book!

I am currently working a job I am insanely overqualified for, doing freelance work, taking classes, and maintaining a job search. Yeah, I don't have much time for sleep these days.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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Makes me sad that whatever started in the 80s, the "knowledge economy" ("the future is the knowledge economy...") keeps on going for the 4th decade and the inertia crowd finds it hard to put 2 and 2 together:

How hard is it to see the imbalance in the economy?

With everyone being knowledge workers, who is going to sew buttons on their pants? Who is going to fix their pipes? Who is going to change their tires?

The trades are starved for workers. Alberta and Saskatchewan advertise in Australia already. $50 an hour to heavy duty mechanics, welders, and about any other occupation. $100K for an honest job, not for paper pushing.

How many more business administrators do we need? Someone has to create businesses to have offices where the administrators want to sit. But it's hard to start a business, isn't it? And blue collar is too dirty of a job, isn't it? Then keep running the Gnutella circles.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:58 PM
 
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Teaching? Really? You want to go BACK to school to get a teaching license?
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Old 03-01-2012, 07:01 PM
 
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I understand your feeling. Trust me I have thought of who in the heck do i have to sleep with (or bj) to get a decent job.
Something, anything!
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