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Old 03-13-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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We called it a science for people who can't do math. I was a geology major. I did take a Psycology 105 class for a gen ed requirement. Super easy class, got one of the highest grades in the class. The prof was a nice lady. After the class she asked me if I'd like to be a tutor for the class. I politely declined, saying I was too busy. But thought: tutor for this class?? sheesh. If you read the notes and the textbook the multiple choice test is not that hard. I hung out with the straight A science students so I guess I didn't know what other students were really like. sheesh.
That's a bit of generalization. I guess it depends on what you call math. Matrix algebra, linear algebra, calculus. If you don't consider those math then I guess you are right, it is a science for people who can't do math.

Here are some common mathematical applications for psychology: Item response theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Structural equation modeling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hierarchical linear modeling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

gen ed classes are designed to be a quick overview of an entire field. Of course they will be easy in almost all cases. That would be like taking intro to micro economics and saying all economics is simple math.

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Old 03-13-2012, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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I've personally never held the field of psychology in very high esteem and pride myself that I have never taken a psychology course in my life. I consider it mostly a junk science.
LOL - well both my BS and MS degrees are in psychology. I have done quite well, career-wise (and I work in the corporate sector doing research, not doing therapy). And when I got laid off a bit over a year ago, I was able to land a new position within a month. Not bad for someone with a degree in "junk science".

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We called it a science for people who can't do math.
As part of my B.S. curriculum, I took (and passed with flying colors) courses in calculus, physics, and advanced statistics. For the latter, feel free to point out where the conduct of analyses using techniques such as multiple regression, path analysis and structural equasion modeling are not math. Back at that time, we didn't have very advanced, Windows-based, point-and-click programs for this either - I learned how to do these types of analyses by hand. And when I did use SAS, I had to program those lines of code myself.

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Old 03-13-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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In the immortal words of Maverick: "I get to blow ***** up!"
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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LOL - well both my BS and MS degrees are in psychology. I have done quite well, career-wise (and I work in the corporate sector doing research, not doing therapy). And when I got laid off a bit over a year ago, I was able to land a new position within a month. Not bad for someone with a degree in "junk science".



As part of my B.S. curriculum, I took (and passed with flying colors) courses in calculus, physics, and advanced statistics. For the latter, feel free to point out where the conduct of analyses using techniques such as multiple regression, path analysis and structural equasion modeling are not math. Back at that time, we didn't have very advanced, Windows-based, point-and-click programs for this either - I learned how to do these types of analyses by hand. And when I did use SAS, I had to program those lines of code myself.
Hope I didn't offend anyone. I was sort of joking around. I do know that there is a lot of advanced stats in psycology.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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Yes, I know; but I would bet that a majority of human resource employees are not I/O psychologists.

Usually, people think psychology is a junk science when they don't know much about psychology in the first place. How can one make a judgment if they don't even know what psychologists do?
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:30 PM
 
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HR is actually a smart career choice. There is high demand and the pay generally is high, not low like another poster said. It's probably one of the easier degrees to complete. Not that I think HR specialists/managers are particularly smart, but it's a smart career choice for someone who isn't too bright.
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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HR is a pretty broad field. Sure most entry level HR people probably don't have advanced degrees in fields like I/O. But a large proportion of the people that are at the VP or executive levels are fairly bright and do have advanced degrees within the I/O, sometimes HR (which is a little softer on the science) fields.

I work as an external consultant and the HR people I interact with at companies usually have advanced degrees and are pretty bright people.

HR generalists at small companies, can probably be described fairly accurately with your assessment. Talent Management VPs/Execs at fortune 1000s most likely not.

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Old 03-13-2012, 09:34 PM
 
Location: NJ
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The company that employs people who request things like this deserves to be publicly shamed.

You should send it to the NYTimes and other papers and news outlets. Would make a great piece, especially with the economy and jobs market like it is.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:18 AM
 
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Oh, I LOVE stuff like this. I once talked about a "success" in my teaching career, that illustrated team coordination, comprehensive transition, and employment/independemt living goals. The story was so awesome, it usually had people in tears. Thanks. It was all BS.

But it was a great story. And I told it so well.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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the company that employs people who request things like this deserves to be publicly shamed.

You should send it to the nytimes and other papers and news outlets. Would make a great piece, especially with the economy and jobs market like it is.
^^^^This.
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