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Old 07-11-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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...what hospitals are you going to where the nurses don't have degrees?
RN is a 2yr degree....bobtn mentions 4 yr degrees....
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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RN is a 2yr degree....bobtn mentions 4 yr degrees....
There are nurses with 4 year degrees. BSNs. Many go on to their MSNs.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:23 PM
 
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Intelligence is 50% inherited. You also inherit your parents and home environment. I would estimate maybe 25-40% of life outcomes are due to how hard you work. Life is not fair.

I agree. But I would say much more of intelligence is genetically determined. It isn't popular to talk about how genes are really the dealt cards these days, but they are.
So much about us is attributed to our genes, even how we may think and react to things. It is our programming.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:23 PM
 
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The point is the college degree percentage infers the remainder stopped right after high school. Not true. I'd prefer to see a completed training/education post hs percentage as an index of the percentage ready for the new economy.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:54 AM
 
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Oh, I agree.
Yes, that's the "one size fits all" mentality. Or the idea that if it worked for them...
They think things are that simple. "Well, it worked for me!"

I find it odd, when things are so competitive out there, that employers prefer to hire their friends. That's pretty much tossing skills and abilities out the door. So they hire a friend...now they got friends working for them. How does that make them money? How does that make their business more competitive? I don't get it.

I think it's a depression.
If anything it makes business a whole lot worse, especially if you're a place of business that is big on customer service. I've met plenty of employed people who didn't have a lick of communication skills to work well with their coworkers nor the costumers, BUT they got the job simply because they knew somebody.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:21 PM
 
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It's now what you know it's who you know.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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Agreed! It's the opportunity thing that people aren't grasping today. A star football player may have had to work hard to become a star but someone else had to give him that opportunity first.
But there is this strange disconnect in this country that if we just go to school, get a degree, and stay positive that all will work out in the end. It will for some but that number is dwindling.
I received my undergrad in '06, my grad in '09 and I did not graduate with those assumptions. I don't believe people really think such things, as if they are stupid. Rather, the do as little as possible for the potentially greatest reward mentality seems to be pretty pervasive in American culture.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:01 PM
 
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I received my undergrad in '06, my grad in '09 and I did not graduate with those assumptions. I don't believe people really think such things, as if they are stupid. Rather, the do as little as possible for the potentially greatest reward mentality seems to be pretty pervasive in American culture.
Various posters have made this claim. They sort of expose one aspect of why things might not have worked out for them.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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If anything it makes business a whole lot worse, especially if you're a place of business that is big on customer service. I've met plenty of employed people who didn't have a lick of communication skills to work well with their coworkers nor the costumers, BUT they got the job simply because they knew somebody.

That seems to be the soup du jour in hiring now. Why not just do away with hiring managers or HR? I worked for one company who had their managers hire for their departments, and they had ONE HR person, and everything else, such as insurance and benefits, were outsourced to a different firm. Why bother to have HR people, if managers are going to hire their friends??
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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It's not that managers only hire their friends, but if you know someone at a company who can vouch for you, say, hey, check out this person, that's the biggest thing.
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