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Old 04-14-2012, 02:12 AM
 
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include the Job on your Resume, Application, Employment history, etc. I hear many people say different things regarding this, some say employers can only give out certain, limited information, like only the dates and if the person is rehirable, or that employers can give out any information they want to other employers about a former employee, and some say it is illegal for employers to do that, and others say the oppossite, and does it vary per state? Overall, can Employers still find out that you were fired from a previous job even if you do not include that job on your employment history, resume, application, etc.? They say your SSN gives out that information, and some people say that your SSN is not supposed to give out that type of information. So i'm confused
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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Based on my personal knowledge (so take it for what its worth) former employers normally do not give out much information aside from dates worked, position, and pay. Saying more may get them into trouble but it would still be hard to prove if a reference flat out lied--other than that its all legal information. Many companies are going to 3rd party verifiers for this reason. It removes the connection between the parties.

You can request your employment record through the social security office. It costs $14 (or there about)for each year of information. This information lists the employer, dates of employment, and wages.

An employer can find out everywhere you have worked before if they look hard enough. It also depends on who they contract to do their background checks. There are 3 leading companies that are used. They retain information on each check and can easily include other employment you did not list if they have that info.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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I think you are over estimating the ability of those background investigation firms in verifying previous employment of applicants. I was told that they are call centers with where they have hundreds of reps calling hundreds of places every day. It is a numbers game and it is to their advantage to get the information verified as soon as possible and then move on to the next order.

All they really can do is just verify the information that is given to them. They do not have access to some social security database with salary and dates of employment.

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Based on my personal knowledge (so take it for what its worth) former employers normally do not give out much information aside from dates worked, position, and pay. Saying more may get them into trouble but it would still be hard to prove if a reference flat out lied--other than that its all legal information. Many companies are going to 3rd party verifiers for this reason. It removes the connection between the parties.

You can request your employment record through the social security office. It costs $14 (or there about)for each year of information. This information lists the employer, dates of employment, and wages.

An employer can find out everywhere you have worked before if they look hard enough. It also depends on who they contract to do their background checks. There are 3 leading companies that are used. They retain information on each check and can easily include other employment you did not list if they have that info.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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I think you are over estimating the ability of those background investigation firms in verifying previous employment of applicants. I was told that they are call centers with where they have hundreds of reps calling hundreds of places every day. It is a numbers game and it is to their advantage to get the information verified as soon as possible and then move on to the next order.

All they really can do is just verify the information that is given to them. They do not have access to some social security database with salary and dates of employment.

Anyone diagree?
I had said the OP has access to the SS history. Third parties do use the info you give but with so many companies using places like HireRight and The Work Number it is easy to find out info.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Who would have ever thought we would come to a time where employers looked for ways to get around laws.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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Who would have ever thought we would come to a time where employers looked for ways to get around laws.
probably because of the crappy, horrible economy, employers have become more picky and choosy, because of the more competition unfortuneately
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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so does it really vary per state or not?
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:08 PM
 
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How long would the gap be if you left out that employer? If longer than a few months how are you going to explain it?

Unless it was for something serious like theft or assault on another employer, I can't see how being terminated would necessarily hurt you.

Except for the "protected classes" and minimum wage almost all employment laws are State laws.

To save themselves from the potential lawsuit most will not give more information than dates employed, wage, eligible for rehire, some will only give dates employed.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:48 PM
 
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How long would the gap be if you left out that employer? If longer than a few months how are you going to explain it?

Unless it was for something serious like theft or assault on another employer, I can't see how being terminated would necessarily hurt you.

Except for the "protected classes" and minimum wage almost all employment laws are State laws.

To save themselves from the potential lawsuit most will not give more information than dates employed, wage, eligible for rehire, some will only give dates employed.
how about being fired for attendence issues?
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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how about being fired for attendance issues?
That isn't good, I know many places where that is the only reason anyone is ever fired, some people just don't "get" point systems.

It comes down to what the gap in employment is and what the explanation would be.
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