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You think the additional money could have any bearing on their "attitude"?
It is more of the culture. Nordstrom is known as one of the best retail employers in the industry. They treat their employees well and hire people with solid backgrounds. Walmart does not. It is more about the culture of a company then it is anything else.
People think Nordstrom as upscale, good items and good customer service. Walmart is bottom of the barrel, terrible items and terrible customer service.
Nordstrom employees work on commission, so they have to be nice. If they are not they make base pay which is about 9.80 according to some blog I just read.
"IT varies because it is mostly commission based. You can earn more than base pay, but you won't get your base pay. for example, when I worked there I made a percentage of each sale and so long as that percentage was equal to or greater than 9.80 I would get the commission, but if it was less then I would get 9.80/hr. It all depends on where you live, how much experience you have, and what department you work at. The percentage varies depending on what you are selling because you can't have the same percentage for a $20 kids shirt and for a $1,000 purse it isn't fair. You also have to take into consideration that when an item is returned it will be taken out of your pay regardless of when it was returned or where, unless you don't work there anymore. It is hard to know how much you will earn in any given week especially if there are last minute returns or if something is sold under your number or taken away from your number, etc. It's kind of complicated, but easy if you keep very close track of your numbers, which means checking daily and asking your manager for updated numbers and also keeping close contact with your customer and your merchandise that belongs to your customer. All in all, to make the most money you try to sell as many of the most expensive thing possible and make sure that your customer never returns it. My paycheck varied from 1000 to 250 a week![LEFT]
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So comparing the two is not really logical. To make accurate comparisons you would need to compare Walmart with Dollar Store, Big Lots, Aldis I would guess.
Ah HA! Thank you for making the point. Wal-Mart customers can expect the bare minimum. However, have you ever been to Nordstroms? Their employees deliver some of the best customer service I've ever seen. They are extremely polite, friendly and helpful and make a LOT more money than a Wal-Mart cashier.
It's almost like a metaphor for you people with a sullen attitude committed to only giving the bare minimum to your job. You are the people of Wal-Mart and unless you change your attitude, you always will be.
Thanks for mentioning Nordstroms, which confirms MY point if anything..
Customers get what they pay for. It's human nature. People would be more than willing to go the extra mile for you if they feel it's worth it. You pay higher prices at Nordstroms, Nordstroms pays their employees better, the employees are willing to work harder.
And that goes back to the OP. employers get what they pay for. If they're only paying peanuts, they're only going to attract Monkeys. Just as employees aren't entitled to the perfect job, employers aren't entitled to the perfect employee.
Studies have actually shown that money is a very poor motivator, once a person has a roof over their head and food in their stomach. The best motivator is the idea that you are a part of a high quality and successful team. Giving a feeling of importance to your employees will motivate them far more than a higher paycheck (from a human behavior point of view).
So, the point at which people have a roof over their head and food in their stomach is $9.80 an hour?
Money becomes less of a concern when you are talking about very high 5 digits at minimum. Before that point, money is absolutely a motivator, and that is where most of us are sitting.
What you fail to understand is there's an equilibrium to be met between money and happiness.
Of course if a person's basic needs are met without a problem, money beyond that point wouldn't be a motivator.
But what about the person making minimum wage who can't even afford a 1-bedroom apartment in any of the fifty states?
I understand what you are saying, but from a psychological point of view, the person making minimum wage who firmly believe he/she is doing a really good thing with their life is more likely to keep that job than to switch to a job that "doesn't matter" for more money. That is obviously not the case for everyone, but for the vast majority of people, that is true.
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So, the point at which people have a roof over their head and food in their stomach is $9.80 an hour?
Money becomes less of a concern when you are talking about very high 5 digits at minimum. Before that point, money is absolutely a motivator, and that is where most of us are sitting.
The person who has their basic needs covered and makes $9.80 an hour would absolutely be more likely to stay with that job if they feel they are extremely important than to move to another job making more money where they feel like they are just anther cog in the machine.
The #1 most important thing in a person's life is the desire to feel important. Play to that desire and you can have a lot more control over other people.
The person who has their basic needs covered and makes $9.80 an hour would absolutely be more likely to stay with that job if they feel they are extremely important than to move to another job making more money where they feel like they are just anther cog in the machine.
The #1 most important thing in a person's life is the desire to feel important. Play to that desire and you can have a lot more control over other people.
Eh, Id gladly jump to someplace I felt like I was just another cog in the machine if it met a few more bucks an hour. No questions asked.
Eh, Id gladly jump to someplace I felt like I was just another cog in the machine if it met a few more bucks an hour. No questions asked.
You have also said that you vindictively stick it to anyone who you worked with who you don't like. With all due respect, you seem to have a fairly cold attitude towards other people. There is nothing wrong with that, but you are somewhat atypical in your way of thinking.
Thanks for mentioning Nordstroms, which confirms MY point if anything..
Customers get what they pay for. It's human nature. People would be more than willing to go the extra mile for you if they feel it's worth it. You pay higher prices at Nordstroms, Nordstroms pays their employees better, the employees are willing to work harder.
And that goes back to the OP. employers get what they pay for. If they're only paying peanuts, they're only going to attract Monkeys. Just as employees aren't entitled to the perfect job, employers aren't entitled to the perfect employee.
But you can't just roll out of bed after graduating high school and decide to get a job at Nordstroms. You have to have a proven track record. If you showed a poor attitude at Wal-Mart, there is no reason they will want to hire you at Nordstrom's. THAT'S why you bust your a$$ at that crummy job.
You have also said that you vindictively stick it to anyone who you worked with who you don't like. With all due respect, you seem to have a fairly cold attitude towards other people. There is nothing wrong with that, but you are somewhat atypical in your way of thinking.
I did not say Id vindictively stick it to anyone "I didnt like". I said Id stick it to anyone who did me wrong. I can not like someone, and their actions still have no real impact on my life. On the other hand, some pricks who decided to get rid of me without warning, without regard for my life situation, and while smiling to my face, yeah, if I ever get a chance to get even with them, I will.
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I did not say Id vindictively stick it to anyone "I didnt like". I said Id stick it to anyone who did me wrong. I can not like someone, and there actions still have no real impact on my life. On the other hand, some pricks who decided to get rid of me without warning, without regard for my life situation, and while smiling to my face, yeah, if I ever get a chance to get even with them, I will.
You need to work on your anger issues. This is not normal thinking. Your attitude is as bad as the Enron people who were willing to screw someone over just to make an extra dollar.
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