"You don't deserve to have a job!" (employees, interview, salary)

[Ron.]

Originally Posted by PacificFlights

isnlt this a bit of a reflection on your skills at hiring responsible people. Although they clearly may not be deserving of the job due to their lack of responsinbility, you equally have failed the company.

As a hiring manager...........no it's not a reflection and YOU clearly don't do the hiring


You really don't know what you're getting. You can ask 50 questions, check references and read their resume until the cows come home and you can still get DUDS!!

I've hired and fired a Lot of people over the years. that's just the way it is.

[Ted_Stalin]

You get what you pay for. If you want better employees, then you need to offer a higher salary, a better working environment, or incentives. It sounds like you haven't really motivated or challenged them enough to care for your company.

[stan4]

Originally Posted by nj21

Figures. I remember a poster talking about how people don't do a good job then he paid them $8.15. That him?



It isn't BS. It's true in the eyes of some people. They take any old job to "get by" and just do whatever.

Why do you think a lot of minimum wage customer service oriented businesses have bad customer service?

You know its the truth.

Yeah, when I worked minimum wage ($4.25), I didn't use that as an excuse to be a lazy slacker.
It's called a work ethic.

[stan4]

Originally Posted by Ted_Stalin

You get what you pay for. If you want better employees, then you need to offer a higher salary, a better working environment, or incentives. It sounds like you haven't really motivated or challenged them enough to care for your company.

They knew the salary going in.
If they were going to be f**k-offs bc they didn't like the salary/bennies, they should have NOT taken the job.

That is called integrity.

[nj21]

Originally Posted by stan4

Yeah, when I worked minimum wage ($4.25), I didn't use that as an excuse to be a lazy slacker.
It's called a work ethic.

I have no clue when that was. But I'm sure there was still some hope of achieving the American Dream.

[furrypro]

Are you the supervisor? If not then I would just relax and focus on my own performance.

Originally Posted by TheHitman

That's what I feel like telling 2 of the people I RECENTLY HIRED.


One of them has called off 1 time and has been tardy twice within her first 15 days.

The other guy has been late 3 times within the first 45 days.


These people are on their way out. They don't deserve to have a job.


They get 4 total "chances" before it's bye bye.


I want to tell my boss, can we make an exception and just let them go now. Why wait, they are not going to make it past their first 90 days of probation.

[PacificFlights]

Originally Posted by Ron.

As a hiring manager...........no it's not a reflection and YOU clearly don't do the hiring


You really don't know what you're getting. You can ask 50 questions, check references and read their resume until the cows come home and you can still get DUDS!!

I've hired and fired a Lot of people over the years. that's just the way it is.

Well, it may just be me, but I take a certain amount of responsibiity for the actions of those I hire or recommend be hired. I may have no control over what they actually do, but that does not mean I just brush it off as one of those " well not my problem" attitude. To me that would be the same as an employee blaming the weather or traffic or an accident or lights not timed correctly or slow drivers or...... I would find this attitude of "not my problem" or "nothing I can do" to be all to convinient to shirk the responsiblity the company placed in me by pretending my hands are clean in the matter. Of course my attitude, which is openly shared by all other employees, may be why the company is sucessful and the employes loyal to the company. We act in our mutual best interest (we take care of the company, the company takes care of us) and part fo that is being credited for a job well done, while accepting our role in any failures. Hiring two people who outright disregard reporting times to that degree, well thats a equal failure of the new employee and a failure of the person hiring them. Sorry, thats my belief.

[Ron.]

Originally Posted by PacificFlights

Well, it may just be me, but I take a certain amount of responsibiity for the actions of those I hire or recommend be hired..

I get that and you make a good point(REPS for that) but as I stated, you can do all of the screening you want, you still have no idea what you're going to get.


When I hire people, I do not take "the fall" if they do not "make it".


I hire/manage people that make well over $50k/annual salary. We're not talking low wage/no skill workers.

That's just the way it is.

[stan4]

Originally Posted by nj21

I have no clue when that was. But I'm sure there was still some hope of achieving the American Dream.

Do you swallow everything the media sells you?

And how do you expect the return of the American Dream to occur if everyone just whines and slacks?

[313Weather]

Originally Posted by TheHitman

That's what I feel like telling 2 of the people I RECENTLY HIRED.


One of them has called off 1 time and has been tardy twice within her first 15 days.

The other guy has been late 3 times within the first 45 days.


These people are on their way out. They don't deserve to have a job.


They get 4 total "chances" before it's bye bye.


I want to tell my boss, can we make an exception and just let them go now. Why wait, they are not going to make it past their first 90 days of probation.

Didn't you consider their possible attendance issues before hiring them? Things such as commuting distance, if they owned a car and if they had children?

Originally Posted by nj21

Wait? What is it that you do and how much are you paying them? That could have a little something to do with it..maybe slightly.

Originally Posted by PacificFlights

isnlt this a bit of a reflection on your skills at hiring responsible people. Although they clearly may not be deserving of the job due to their lack of responsinbility, you equally have failed the company.

^^^Also what they said.