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Old 09-12-2012, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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Nope. Many others posted about HR before I did. I'm agreeing. Why do you feel slighted? Or are you playing the namby-pamby political correctness card? This thread, by its very nature, is not about political correctness.
Not sure what "political correctness" even has to do about this.

My point was (and I will try to use small words for you): your statement made it seem like all HR people act this way. Which is why I referred to your statements as a "broad generalization" (if you still do not understand what that word means, take a minute to go grab a dictionary).

Are some HR people complete tools? Yes they are. Are all of them? Nope.
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Old 09-12-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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I think it is human nature to downplay your own ethical decisions and focus on others.
Of course it is. Everyone likes to have someone else to blame when things do not go their way.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Provo, Utah
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Working for a Health Insurance company where your bonuses are tied to how many claims you can deny in any way possible.

Working for a Department of Veterans Affairs where your bonuses are tied to how many claims on Veterans benefits you can deny in any way possible.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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One thing that you have to remember is that every profession has both ethical and unethical people in it. I don't think that there are any inherently ethical or unethical professions. Some professions may have more unethical people in it than others, but every profession has both ethical and unethical people.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:33 AM
 
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Politicians, lawyers, some real estate agents, investment bankers
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:38 AM
 
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Here is one fine example: It occured at a huge EU corp whose US subsidiary if measured alone would have been at least than (early 90s) , a Fortune 250 corp. Had an exec tell me he wanted employee XYZ in Fl gone..did not have any prior performance complaints written over a 8 year period. H/R VP said "send him down, we'll get it done, it is up to us to make up whatever reason we need, we've done it many times". The exec did not want to pay customary severence (a corp precedent set in similar level downsizings), nor unemployment compensation.


You were saying?
Yeah...and for every exec who does that, there are 20 people who act as their own references when applying for a lower level job. For every exec like that there are 10 people who make up qualifications and 10 people who really only work 20 hours while getting paid for 40.

You were saying?
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:50 AM
 
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Yeah...and for every exec who does that, there are 20 people who act as their own references when applying for a lower level job. For every exec like that there are 10 people who make up qualifications and 10 people who really only work 20 hours while getting paid for 40.

You were saying?
Wasn't the discussion about HR people being unethical? What does that have to do with what you're saying? They are two independent concepts.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I agree with you that people shouldn't make things up about their qualifications. But that's entirely independent of whether or not HR people have a tendency to be corrupt or unethical. That, I do not know, for I have never experienced it first hand as bobtn has.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:02 AM
 
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Wasn't the discussion about HR people being unethical? What does that have to do with what you're saying? They are two independent concepts.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I agree with you that people shouldn't make things up about their qualifications. But that's entirely independent of whether or not HR people have a tendency to be corrupt or unethical. That, I do not know, for I have never experienced it first hand as bobtn has.
Exactly my point I was trying to make. People across all professions/levels are unethical. It isn't just the rich and powerful as this board likes to make it out to be.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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Exactly my point I was trying to make. People across all professions/levels are unethical. It isn't just the rich and powerful as this board likes to make it out to be.
This thread is about "least ethical professions", not "least ethical individuals."

If you want to have a discussion about "least ethical individuals" and what individuals do that's unethical, create your own thread for it. I'm sure you'll get plenty of responses as well.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:10 AM
 
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This thread is about "least ethical professions", not "least ethical individuals."

If you want to have a discussion about "least ethical individuals" and what individuals do that's unethical, create your own thread for it. I'm sure you'll get plenty of responses as well.
...yet again...my point is that no particular profession is more or less ethical than any other. Just as many plumbers are unethical as stock brokers.
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