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Old 11-19-2012, 10:45 AM
 
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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Most cops make a hell of a lot more than 50k in most parts of CA. Many make well over $100k with overtime some even make over $200k. The average pension for a retiring CHP (California Highway Patrol ) is currently $96k per yer.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Hanover, PA
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I'd have to concur with a Private in the Army.. even the whole enlisted side of the armed forces..
When I joined the Army back in 1994, my annual salary as an Private E1 was less than $10,000 a year..
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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Most cops make a hell of a lot more than 50k in most parts of CA. Many make well over $100k with overtime some even make over $200k. The average pension for a retiring CHP (California Highway Patrol ) is currently $96k per yer.

I agree, a lot of those are assuming no overtime. I know a lineman who is 26 and lives in St. Louis (not a high cost of living area) that makes well into the 80s with overtime.

A meteorologist is more often than not salaried compared to a lineman that is hourly.

Most salaried people I know put in 50-55 hours a week. Add 10 hours a week of overtime (at time and a half) to that 58k base and you end up at 87k.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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I agree that the numbers can be misleading. If you want to know the real pay or situation at a job or profession...ask the people who actually work there. A lot of times it`s a whole different perspective. You only get half the story from various articles or the media.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Woodinville
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My opinion is that there are two classes of professionals. There are those that create real value and those that manipulate perceived value. Production workers, engineers, service professionals, etc. all create real value by designing/producing things, and performing valuable services. The manipulators are people like businessmen, marketers, stock traders etc. These people simply manufacture imaginary value so that the business can profit off of it.

Nearly all value creators are underpaid for their contributions and nearly all value manipulators are overpaid. That's my two cents.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: New York
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Pilots are on there for being overpaid... yet athletes aren't ... hmm
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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My opinion is that there are two classes of professionals. There are those that create real value and those that manipulate perceived value. Production workers, engineers, service professionals, etc. all create real value by designing/producing things, and performing valuable services. The manipulators are people like businessmen, marketers, stock traders etc. These people simply manufacture imaginary value so that the business can profit off of it.

Nearly all value creators are underpaid for their contributions and nearly all value manipulators are overpaid. That's my two cents.
The problem is, without marketers and sales people, the so called value creators wouldn`t have anyone to sell to and so therefore, wouldn`t have a job. Somebody has to market and sell a product or noone will buy it. That is why most companies depend on the marketing sales people. Our sales team is told all the time...you have people depending on you...meaning everyone else at the company is depending on the sales department to bring in the business or noone gets paid.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Woodinville
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The problem is, without marketers and sales people, the so called value creators wouldn`t have anyone to sell to and so therefore, wouldn`t have a job. Somebody has to market and sell a product or noone will buy it. That is why most companies depend on the marketing sales people. Our sales team is told all the time...you have people depending on you...meaning everyone else at the company is depending on the sales department to bring in the business or noone gets paid.
Yes the salesmen are pretty essential to a running business. And the creators and manipulators all depend on each other. I just think the pie is skewed too far in one direction.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:43 PM
 
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Most cops make a hell of a lot more than 50k in most parts of CA. Many make well over $100k with overtime some even make over $200k. The average pension for a retiring CHP (California Highway Patrol ) is currently $96k per yer.
They deserve every cent of that.
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