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Old 12-03-2012, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Apparently, whether you can fit in with the "culture" of any given company takes a back seat to whether you are actually qualified for the job.

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Hiring managers donít always pick the most qualified applicants. They hire people they like and want to spend time with. They hire people who they think could be their friends.
Employers Hire Potential Drinking Buddies Ahead Of Top Candidates - Forbes
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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I have been trying to tell this to the antisocial weirdos on this forum for quite some time. The game has changed, you actually have to be social if you want any chance at moving up. No one wants a quiet sociopath who has the potential to shoot the place up working for them.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I think it is very unfortunate and an abuse of a persons hiring authority. Personally, If I owned a company and found out a manager was hiring cronies instead of best qualified candidates I'd fire him.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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I think it is very unfortunate and an abuse of a persons hiring authority. Personally, If I owned a company and found out a manager was hiring cronies instead of best qualified candidates I'd fire him.
What you have to understand is that most hiring managers aren't hiring "cronies", they are just factoring in the "soft skills" just as much as the "hard skills". You may have all of the knowledge (budget, schedule, scope, etc) to run a project, but if you don't appear to have the ability to build effective relationships, your projects aren't going to go well. So, I may hire someone who has less actual experience, if they have the correct personality for the job. Most "hard skills" (the actual tasks of the job) can be taught much easier than the "soft skills" (the ability to effectively communicate and build relationships).
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: California
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I work in a small office. There is NO way to avoid the person in the office who is rude, if there is one. So, the ability to mesh with our culture REALLY matters.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:48 PM
 
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Agreed, we're a team at work and function better and more cohesively if our personalities mesh. Interviews are just as much about seeing if someone is "a good fit with the team" as attempting to validate what was printed on their resume.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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bunny i don't understand how someone who isn't so good at communicating and building relationships you perceive as being rude. there are some people who lack the confidence to do so but they are not necessarily rude. i myself don't always have the confidence to do those things but i am never rude. im just saying you seem to either see it as one way or another

i don't mean to pick on you but i am annoyed(not at you) because sometimes my lack of chatter with coworkers is occasionally perceived as rudeness because i dont want to be bored to death by insipid small talk
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:18 PM
 
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bunny i don't understand how someone who isn't so good at communicating and building relationships you perceive as being rude. there are some people who lack the confidence to do so but they are not necessarily rude. i myself don't always have the confidence to do those things but i am never rude. im just saying you seem to either see it as one way or another

i don't mean to pick on you but i am annoyed(not at you) because sometimes my lack of chatter with coworkers is occasionally perceived as rudeness because i dont want to be bored to death by insipid small talk
That's just it. Whether you intend it to be or not, it is perceived as rude. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter your intention, it only matters how everyone else perceives.

I, too, don't want to be bored to death by insipid small talk; and I avoid it. But I've learned to build relationships (real ones, not fake) by finding one common item that I can discuss with each person. That way, it's not "insipid" small talk to me or them. It's a brief conversation on a topic that both of us enjoy.

You'd be amazed at the results.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The A students end up working for the C students.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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All I know is I go to work to do work. Of course I am polite and cordial but I don't go out of my way to blather all day with coworkers. Whenever I am not busy with assigned duties I am looking for new projects to do.

I think the number one problem with a lot of companies is a lot of the people are not there to work. It is like a social club and whenever people aren't too busy socializing they will begrudgingly do their job. Apparently that is the way a lot of companies like it because that is how they select who they hire. A lot of companies will get a rude awakening when they end up in bankruptcy court.
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