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That's just silly. Most jobs do not need a degree and most employers could get away with employees without degrees. Law, medical, engineering are exceptions to fields that need degrees. Long drawn out studies. I don't see how people with a degree are more valuable then someone without it. With the exceptions that i've given.
I never said that jobs require degrees. And you missed scientists. I said that individuals with degrees are often more valuable to an employer than individual without degrees.
Take a look at annual reports of companies like Microsoft, Johnson & Johnson, Munich RE or most research companies. Isn't it interesting that they report the number of PhD, MS/MA, BS/BA, uneducated employees every year? Why do you think that is? Because investors care. Look at the proposal for Mcneil's NSF research grant for diabetes medicine. Why do you think it mentions how many college graduates vs non-college graduates? It's because the NSF cares. The reality is that the statistics are important to third parties. As a result, employers seek out college graduates over the uneducated. It makes the college graduates more valuable to the employer. This is true whether or not a college degree is required for a specific job function.
Companies have PhDs wasting their talent just to meet numbers.
I'd like to know people's opinions on this. Does and should a person having a degree automatically qualify them for a higher wage? What about experience, skill, track record? I know we all want higher wages, and a degree is a good "excuse" - but is it really something an employer "owes" to that employee? If so - why? Why should they be paid anymore than anyone else, since they are all doing the job they were hired to do? How is someone with a degree doing anything of more importance than someone who is not, or is doing a job that doesn't require one, to the point that the employer should pay them more money? I'm not stating an opinion, just framing the question. What do you think?
Absolutely not. We all want better opportunities - and education is simply one of many ways to achieve that. Your employer is not obligated to pay more for your services simply because of your degree. But assuming you have the talent/skills they want (which is presumed to be a product of obtaining said degree), they may have to offer a higher compensation package or risk losing your services to a competitor.
I'd like to know people's opinions on this. Does and should a person having a degree automatically qualify them for a higher wage? What about experience, skill, track record? I know we all want higher wages, and a degree is a good "excuse" - but is it really something an employer "owes" to that employee? If so - why? Why should they be paid anymore than anyone else, since they are all doing the job they were hired to do? How is someone with a degree doing anything of more importance than someone who is not, or is doing a job that doesn't require one, to the point that the employer should pay them more money? I'm not stating an opinion, just framing the question. What do you think?
I'd like to know people's opinions on this. Does and should a person having a degree automatically qualify them for a higher wage? What about experience, skill, track record? I know we all want higher wages, and a degree is a good "excuse" - but is it really something an employer "owes" to that employee? If so - why? Why should they be paid anymore than anyone else, since they are all doing the job they were hired to do? How is someone with a degree doing anything of more importance than someone who is not, or is doing a job that doesn't require one, to the point that the employer should pay them more money? I'm not stating an opinion, just framing the question. What do you think?
People should be paid for the job duties they perform, nothing more, nothing else. A waitress with a degree is worth no more than a waitress with a GED to the restaurant manager.
Is that meant to imply that a person cannot be "skilled" without a degree? Not asking in the sense of offense, just trying to clarify your statement.
Correct a tradesmen can also be skilled. A skilled worker is a worker that has aquired skills that are more rare than is found in the general labor force.
I think the college degree should get paid more merely for the fact that having the degree opens one up to student loans which without interest equals a low end entry-level pay on average. Add this to a rising cost of living (in most places,) it hurts the employee if they get a degree and don't get paid well enough to pay it off sooner. I do understand that this is a Pollyanna belief and it is not going to happen.
I think the college degree should get paid more merely for the fact that having the degree opens one up to student loans which without interest equals a low end entry-level pay on average. Add this to a rising cost of living (in most places,) it hurts the employee if they get a degree and don't get paid well enough to pay it off sooner. I do understand that this is a Pollyanna belief and it is not going to happen.
This is as crazy as the notion minimum wage should be linked to living wage. The free market sets rates beautifully. We need to leave it be. In all cases.
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