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You're rationalizing that you're just as productive as the other employees.
I am just as productive. How would you know how productive I am. In fact, I knwo a lot of smokers who don't smoke at work except on their lunch break. Why do you think I wouldn't be? Or are you generalizing everyone into a corner?
I am just as productive. How would you know how productive I am. In fact, I knwo a lot of smokers who don't smoke at work except on their lunch break. Why do you think I wouldn't be? Or are you generalizing everyone into a corner?
True. A lot of jobs don't give you but one break (Publix, you might be scheduled for a 7 hour day with a half hour lunch.... You don't get off that register until it's time for break.) I've known a few employees who didn't smoke but found many other creative ways to waste time not working.
I talked to a police officer who mentioned that he knew a smoker that stayed so fit that he could beat him at laps when they had to go do the fitness course. So there is something you don't hear about every day, because people want to target smokers and stereotype them into a category.
Taking it back to health for a second, being the smoker that I am, I can tell you that in my 30's (means I had been smoking 15 years) I used to go power walk 3 miles then come home and do areobics. Exercising the lungs like that did wonders helping me to keep up in volleyball.
Course now that I haven't been exercising these past 4 years, I'm starting to get a little weazy and I can tell the difference. But, I started bike riding again, and will start walking again too (soons I get a stunner thingy for protection), and I bet I will be able to notice more lung capacity in 1 month's time.
And some employers will simply NOT hire you for being a smoker! They will even go as far as perform a Nicotine drug test on you! Even the Dept. of Defense is considering banning tobacco use in the military. Ah how times have changed... I can finally breath fresh air.
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Europeans who complain about having to step outside in mid-winter to have a cigarette or not being able to enjoy a quick puff with their espresso should spare a thought for their US counterparts.
In the United States, you can lose your job for lighting up -- even on your own time.
That's what happened to Scott Rodrigues of Massachusetts, and he is suing the Scotts lawncare company for violating his privacy and civil rights.
US smokers face threat of being fired - Yahoo! News (broken link)
If I was an employer, I would ban the entry of nicotine, or any form, in any convegance, in any amount, into my workplace. That would keep the skanks out.
I think it's funny that people are criticizing employers' decisions to help better your health. You might as well say, "I can't believe my boss is not allowing me to pollute myself with toxic chemicals that may kill me and others!"
It's amazing how nicotine can change people's minds and attitudes!
Amazing. Perhaps you missed the part where the person in the original article works for a company that manufactures poisons?
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It is a slippery slope. And we are careening down, out of control. First the smokers and who is next? You are. Whenever you applaud someone else losing their rights, you are next in line. History repeats itself whenever we stop learning from the past. More than one or two people in 1938 Germany surely said, "Who cares? I'm not Jewish." My point is, there is or will be something wrong with all of us. You personally may despise smoking, but as long as it's legal, you should defend to the death someone's right to smoke...or even eat french fries. Here's what happens next.
Well, we shouldn't hire women or anyone with children. They need too much time off and babies are always at the doc for something. Then there are those pesky recitals, ball games, and parent teacher conferences. Women have too many emotional issues that distract them from work. And they require too much time off when they reproduce.
We don't need anyone with religious needs, commitments, that would necessitate extra time off either. Or people of certain ethnicity who could expect time off for extra holidays, etc.
Forget the disabled completely. They are expensive to insure and all those doctor appointments and special accommodations. More time off work. Just say no. And let's screen applicants for emotional disabilities as well. And yeah, let's check their credit too. After all, if they are down on their luck, surely we don't want them either.
Over 40? Hell no! We don't want to pay for their healthcare either. And after all, they are just a tick or two away from all the debilitating conditions of old age. Too expensive. They will need time off for all those doctor appointments.
If you are obese, have cholesterol or blood pressure problems, forget finding a job. You are too expensive. And as soon as possible, we will do genetic screening to see if you are carrying markers that indicate you might develop a serious health problem. You bet!
So, here's the one safe career bet you can make. Go into robotics. They are going to stop hiring people with all their warts, problems, issues, and unreasonable demands. It'll all be robots. If this isn't OK with you, go back and reread the first paragraph.
I don't smoke or drink but it's scary for a job to really have any 'say' over what you do in your life (outside of the corporation). I am sure the upper management will always be corrupt and do what THEY want--as long as the grunts 'tow the line.'
Banning smoking and alcohol during working hours is enough. What people do on their free time (as long as you show up clean and sober the next day) is not their business.
Banning smoking and alcohol during working hours is enough. What people do on their free time (as long as you show up clean and sober the next day) is not their business.
I absolutely agree with Gypsy. I don't like the trend of putting disgusting images on cigarette boxes or excuses for "fat taxes". We're giving the authorities way too much power to limit what we can and can't do. Drugs I can understand because is simply illegal, but not the rest.
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Originally Posted by Sobefobik
I think it's funny that people are criticizing employers' decisions to help better your health. You might as well say, "I can't believe my boss is not allowing me to pollute myself with toxic chemicals that may kill me and others!"
It's amazing how nicotine can change people's minds and attitudes!
If people want to get healthy, they'll do it at their own pace. Talk about nanny states.
And no, I don't smoke.
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