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How much your boss likes you. In other words, long job success depends far more on how much your boss/coworkers like you compared to how good you are at the actual job.
I want to say confirm for most jobs. You guys thoughts?
How much your boss likes you. In other words, long job success depends far more on how much your boss/coworkers like you compared to how good you are at the actual job.
I want to say confirm for most jobs. You guys thoughts?
Conditional confirm.
It really depends on what your job is. If you're an NBA player, then it's more based on how well you can do the job.
Most people have jobs that aren't rocket science. In other words, most anybody can do it. So, Joe and Steve, both adjust insurance claims, and Joe maybe works harder but it's not really glaringly noticeable in the results. But Steve gives the appearance of working harder. He's proactive about going up to the boss and asking for extra work, maybe has a little better of a relationship with the boss, and probably has more charisma, so people gravitate towards him. Steve might also spend more physical time at the office, lesiurely working and talking with people, but while Joe is on the clock he is a workhorse. But still a lot of that is behind the scenes. Steve appears better. That's the difference between Steve making manager and Joe being stuck in a middle rung for years.
'Working your way up' as so many people are fond of quoting aroud here relies on giving the appearance of working harder as opposed to actually being significantly better.
How much your boss likes you.
I want to say confirm for most jobs. You guys thoughts?
On most (as in 96% or more) jobs? Denied.
The first step is in how you define boss.
If boss = someone with actual profit/loss responsibility...
then performance and effectiveness will always come first. No Exceptions.
If boss = just another clod babysitter type who thinks they are in charge of something?
Find another job.
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I totally confirm...and this comes from working at several different companies and in several different industries for 20 + years. Heck, I've even seen bosses actually create positions for people they like.
How much your boss likes you. In other words, long job success depends far more on how much your boss/coworkers like you compared to how good you are at the actual job.
I want to say confirm for most jobs. You guys thoughts?
At the offices I've worked in, DEFINITELY "confirm." EVERYTHING boils down to whether you play the office politics game well and if you are likeable. I learned that one the hard way at the job I was laid off from.
I saw so many mediocre, flat out lazy workers not only keep their jobs but get promoted. They were adored by management while the quiet, industrious ones who kept to themselves and didn't bother making inane small talk and sharing their personal lives with everyone got the ax. The guy who sat in the cubicle next to me spent half of the freaking day on sports sites. He got a little slap on the wrist, a "talk" from a manager once about it, but he kept his job. The quality of his work was subpar and he made a lot of mistakes. The little ass kisser was always in one of the partner's office running his mouth about sports, the boss's last golf outing, or where the boss went on vacation. It was disgusting.
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But honestly if the boss is shady, I say confirm in most cases. If the boss is tough but fair, then deny. But it really depends on the boss too.
I have worked at jobs where the "boss" is a complete idiot and treats the workplace like a frat house. If you are one of his cronies, you are worth your weight in gold. If you are an "outsider," you will be crapped on and eventually discarded.
Neither and both. Both play a role in your success on the job.
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