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Old 08-08-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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Your not worth as much as I am ! ! !
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: NoVa
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Knew exactly what group they were referring to before I clicked the article... quite a sign of the times. My employer now wants two years' professional experience for the same damn entry level job I was able to land quick and easily without any experience or bureaucratic HR nonsense. Employers have really milked the ever living sh*t out of this post-recession period... it will be interesting to watch them scramble to fill positions as the market becomes more favorable for the worker and they lose their top talent. Maybe there will be a huge spike in voluntary quits when the health insurance exchanges go into effect next year...
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:56 PM
 
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Your not worth as much as I am ! ! !
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Must be because of that impeccable grammar. But in all seriousness, what is your point? I'm confused by this seemingly arbitrary statement.
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:58 PM
 
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True, and one of my current duties is succession planning. It's a challenge, but we do manage to have some younger people that can promote. The last one I hired had the required 3 years experience, and an MBA and is in the lowest paying position in my group but I see potential. Another in a higher position is just 26, and other 28. Then it goes up to 48, and 55.

Maybe we'll go back to the dot com boom years, when employers were throwing all kinds o fmoney and benefits at people to steal the best talent away from the competitors. We see some of that even now with Google, Microsoft and Apple.
The company I work at seems focused on this as well. The majority of people in my group are in their 20s and 30s. It's basically the starting point with this particular company.
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:58 PM
 
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While there are some true complainers, I think many in the older generations don't quite understand that the generation that is graduating during this economic downturn really does have it worse. Earning a few thousand dollars less than college graduates did over a decade ago is very troubling. Most of the openings I come across for positions labeled as entry level require 1 to 3 years of experience. How is that entry level? People accuse millennials of not wanting to start at the bottom, but 52% of recent college graduates are working jobs that do not require a degree. The article says that this is a new problem. I bet, in many cases, these positions have little room for growth and aren't related to the person's field of study. This means the person is not gaining the right kind of experience that will help him or her in gaining employment in his or her field.
My uncle was really judgmental about my job search problem a few years ago. Not to my face, behind my back. Then he got laid off and had a hard time finding work. Now he understands.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Default get a job the easy way

you dont need a degree to get a good job all you need to do is lie about your credentials how many companys check your background they dont want to spend the money its all totally pschological they tellyou they do but they dont look at your schools all these teachers are sick how do they get the job they lie
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:46 AM
 
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you dont need a degree to get a good job all you need to do is lie about your credentials how many companys check your background they dont want to spend the money its all totally pschological they tellyou they do but they dont look at your schools all these teachers are sick how do they get the job they lie
This is a fallacy.
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:58 AM
 
Location: La Jolla, CA
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...Nor an MBA unless it is from an elate school. The automatic career fantasy ended a little while ago.
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I do think this generation is getting the short end of the stick though, because they were *told* that a collage degree of any sort was a sure ticket to success.
Degree from an "elate collage"? Is that what you put on your cover letter? Good play on words.


"Hi, Miz Vox, thank you for coming in for an interview. I have a question about your cover letter."

"What about it?"

"Well, Miz Vox, it says here that you graduated from an elate collage."

"Mmmmmmm hmmmm!!!"

"But, Miz Vox, your resume doesn't list any elite college degree. In fact, your resume doesn't show any college degree at all, but this job requires a college degree. Could you explain?"

"I didn't say anything about elite college, I said e-late col-lage. See how creative I am? I think my play on words shows that I'm smarter than graduates of elite colleges. Now, since I'm already here, do I get this job or not?"

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Old 08-09-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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There are also more jobs that require or prefer a college degree, though. For instance, I'm sure it was very rare in the past to see an ad for a secretary opening that asked for college credits. Now, I do regularly see ads for administrative assistant positions requiring or preferring some college credits or an associate's degree. For the jobs that have required a degree for a long time, many of them are raising their standards. Instead of just needing an associate's degree, you now need a bachelor's degree. There has been a trend in the health professions to make the doctorate the lowest required degree i.e. physical therapy and pharmacy. They are now trying to do this with nurse practitioners, and I wouldn't be surprised if the standard is eventually raised for occupational therapists.
I think as more and more high school grads are functioning illiterates, we will see more businesses asking for "some college" just to weed out the low functioning HS grads.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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you dont need a degree to get a good job all you need to do is lie about your credentials how many companys check your background they dont want to spend the money its all totally pschological they tellyou they do but they dont look at your schools all these teachers are sick how do they get the job they lie
Maybe it's the type of jobs I'm applying to, but I've had to show my transcripts several times. So, do you recommend that people purchase fake transcripts?
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