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Old 08-30-2013, 07:34 PM
Location: California
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I often tell my husband; go stick your head in a bucket, when you lift it out, you will see how long they will miss you. Such is life in this valley.

Since companies know they inflicting financial and emotion pain on people, they fear someone going postal.

Put it in a box and never open it again. Life is too short and they never where your friends anyway. I'm sure no one has called to ask how you are doing.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by I'm Retired Now View Post
These were related to projects that I had worked weekends and evenings on and had cancelled numerous vacations at the last minute!
I hope you learned something from this the first time you were fired. I hope you learned that giving up your nights, your weekends, your vacation time, the best years of your life all in the name of work, work, work is a silly thing to do, unless you have absolutely no other options left.

It would be tragic if you continued on such a path of sacrifice only to have gotten the boot again and again by different companies over the years.

Sadly I see too many people who put up with it.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:12 PM
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Yep...that's just how life is. That's why loyalty is for suckers!
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:29 PM
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Never give your loyalty to corporate America. When you quit or get fired no one care, they are just fighting over your office. Remember what's important in life, relationships with family and friends. Too many people forget this until its too late.
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Old 08-30-2013, 08:37 PM
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There was one job, they called a meeting and told us if we did not sign a draconian non disclosure/noncompete/ do everything the company said (4 pages of legalese) that we could leave. (refused an opportunity to let us have OUR lawyers look it over.)

I walked out. Along with 7 others.

The others broke down, signed and went back. I had enough money to shake the dust from my feet.

I was not prepared for the "lock out" (didn't even get to gather my stuff, it was dumped in a box and delivered to me.... Mostly)

But I HAD insured I had phone numbers and email addresses in my personal phone and email address.

I was able to inform those who needed informing.
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambler123 View Post
I could write a book on the madness I've seen, and I've only been in the corporate world for a bit under 15 years. Most companies are run by idiots with a handful of greedy sociopaths leading the rest around like lost ducklings. It's wonder anything gets done much of the time.
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Old 08-31-2013, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet Jones View Post
Well, you would think that the people in corporate would care. These types of decisions are often made with no thought of the business consequences. Some bean counter or HR toady says "X number of people must go" and that is that.

That isnt always the reason people are laid off. As a supervisor, I had to participate in a lot of "deadwood layoffs" over the years -- where underperformers or those who had lied about their knowledge/abilities or those who called in sick too many Mondays and didnt improve, despite repeated warnings -- were let go. Of course, none of the other employees knew why these people were laid off, so many of them blamed me.

I suspect there are a lot more "deadwood layoffs" throughout the corporate world than many of you realize.
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Old 08-31-2013, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by I'm Retired Now View Post
I would check back a few weeks later with my friends in the office and they weren't even told I was gone, they just assumed I was on vacation. What did the people who never heard back from me who had outstanding projects, emails or phone calls think! OMG!
Every corporation has a valuable tool - it called the IT department. They accessed your emails, calendar and work to find out exactly what was left unfinished.

I have a heavy heart for you and the countless others that are dumped by corporations. It used to be that employees were valued. Think about it. The generations that were rewarded with great pensions after years of service to a company are all old or dead. Now, company's throw pennies into the well....and we workers are left with 401k and 403B that if lucky, are "matched" less than 6%.

Welcome to corporate America!

I've seen top level executives that were given the opportunity to finish what needed to be done, stay at work for a couple of months to easy the transition. It was never smooth. One VP cleared his desk out the same day in front of staff and pretty much just hung out for three months in his empty office. Uncomfortable, and counterproductive.

I would rather be escorted out the door by security.

Try not to worry too much about those projects. It's just work, and work is something we all have to do so that we can play! You are retired....go and play!
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Old 08-31-2013, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by STT Resident View Post
Not sleeping at night because of perceived wrongs you suffered during your working life isn't very productive. Maybe you just have too much time on your hands and need to find something more practical and current to occupy yourself.
Nothing wrong with reflection.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:13 AM
Location: Georgia
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I have had occasion to wonder what would happen after my employer and I part company. For reasons I won't go into, it is more likely (for the time being) that that detachment will not be my employer's preference, but that's assuming that my employer understands the implications. In this day-and-age, it isn't uncommon for such decisions to be made several layers removed from the institutional knowledge that would perhaps make another decision. In other words, anything is possible.

So how would I react, with regard specifically to the projects I left behind? I think it is really important to understand the nature of termination of employment. My priority would be to be sure I can be in contact with the people I cared about - not the customers, not the suppliers, not the co-workers - but the people. And between having personal email contact with some, and LinkedIn connections with others, that's effectively covered. Beyond that, in cases where one's job is not their life -- and the job being someone's life has got to be a mutual decision - both the employee wanting it to be, and the employer granting sufficient ownership in fact over the job, something that typically only happens for folks who own the place -- where one's job is not their life, you've really got to turn off the job the day you walk out of the office for the last time. You have to have other interests, other pursuits, that you'll step right into the very next morning.

I can imagine getting a call from someone struggling to deal with a problem that I would have handled, and politely replying that I'd really like to help that person out, on a personal level, but that my time is all booked up with the work of finding a new job to allow me to do so. Just as a for-instance. Not out of spite; not as a tactic; but as reality: If my job is now the job search, then I don't have extra focus and energy to spare to divert towards some job that isn't mine anymore. Especially with a job search, which I consider, especially these days, the hardest job in the country.

However, I see that scenario even with a retirement situation. Retirement isn't the wait for death. The day I retire I'm starting a new full-time job, named retirement, full of obligations and responsibilities, the difference being that they would be to myself, but no less serious and worthy of respect. I see myself actually having a number of jobs once I'm retired that will completely fill my time, focus and energy, leaving nothing for helping out with any former job that didn't adequately prepare for my departure by having someone who can step right in and take over what I was doing.

And even in a "taking a few weeks off situation", perhaps at the start of retirement or before a job search... the detaching from the day to day drudgery, without interruption from previous responsibilities now no longer mine, has value, too.
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