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Old 09-14-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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A friend of mine's dad, who's about 50, is currently working full time and attempting to finish getting his degree. When I met him a couple of yrs ago, the dad was unemployed and going to school, at taxpayer's expense. He eventually got this job where he's been working for about a year. School recently started and it's a program he's been waiting 2 yrs for, but his job won't let him take Thursdays off to go to his class so what does he do? He doesn't show up for work and waits for them to fire him just to collect unemployment. I'm also pretty sure he isn't paying for school, we are.

I have a REAL problem with this. He lives in Michigan, so maybe the law is different there. Is this what people do now, instead of quitting to pursue other things they purposely get fired in order the collect unemployment, and they can?
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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if he gets fired for misconduct, it's possible he won't be able to get unemployment benefits. are you certain of his intentions? sounds like a pretty stupid thing to do.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Most jobs will assume you have quit if you fail to show up. I doubt he will be able to collect unemployment if he fails to attend work.

As far as the taxpayer paying for his schooling USUALLY that is only through the trade adjustment act which is when your job is lost due to the company closing and moving operations overseas. I doubt he will qualify for that.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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That's also fraud.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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This is what his son told me so I have no reason to doubt it.

Yes, it seems fraudulent and just all around shady. Should I do something? Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for lazy people.
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:45 PM
 
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It wouldn't hurt to tell him that his plan well likely not work. It could prevent him from getting himself in a bad situation
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Old 09-14-2013, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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You cannot collect unemployment while attending college. Unemployment is only intended for people who lost their jobs, and are attempting to find another. What he did was clearly a case of fraud.
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Old 09-14-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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You cannot collect unemployment while attending college. Unemployment is only intended for people who lost their jobs, and are attempting to find another. What he did was clearly a case of fraud.
In most states, you can collect unemployment while attending college as long as you are not attending full time and it does not interfere with your ability to find work full time and be available for work should you find it.

Additionally, many states allow you to attend school full time, if approved by the division, to increase your employability. NJ even provides tuition waivers for those who do this. This is likely what the OP's friend's father did.

Michigan specific details: http://www.ehow.com/info_8021250_can...ng-school.html
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Old 09-14-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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From NJbest's link....

Unemployment Qualifications
Applicants must qualify for unemployment benefits based on the conditions of their job separation. Applicants must separate from their previous job through no fault of their own. For example, if you quit your job to return back to school, this automatically makes you ineligible for unemployment benefits. However, if you were laid off or lost your job due to reasons not related to poor job performance, you may still be eligible for benefits.



Read more: Can I Collect Unemployment Benefits in Michigan While I Am Going to School? | eHow

If the guy stops showing up to work he will not have lost his job "through no fault of his own".
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Old 09-14-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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A friend of mine's dad, who's about 50, is currently working full time and attempting to finish getting his degree. When I met him a couple of yrs ago, the dad was unemployed and going to school, at taxpayer's expense. He eventually got this job where he's been working for about a year. School recently started and it's a program he's been waiting 2 yrs for, but his job won't let him take Thursdays off to go to his class so what does he do? He doesn't show up for work and waits for them to fire him just to collect unemployment. I'm also pretty sure he isn't paying for school, we are.

I have a REAL problem with this. He lives in Michigan, so maybe the law is different there. Is this what people do now, instead of quitting to pursue other things they purposely get fired in order the collect unemployment, and they can?
Why do you care? I'm not sure if I would call you a real friend. You can report him for unemployment fraud, but my advice would be to just focus on your own life.
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