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Old 11-23-2013, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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In many industries, especially mine (marketing and advertising), there's no such thing as an 8 hour day for salaried employees. Our salaries are usually lower than our freelance hourly rate too.
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Old 11-23-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Unfortunately this thread is off topic for the Connecticut forum so I am moving it to the Work and Employment forum. JayCT, Moderator
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:49 PM
 
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When I was asked to come in on the weekend to cover a shift last minute, I said yes. When I was asked to come in three hours early to attend a meeting, I showed up. When I was told our operational hours would be changing, I said I would plan to remain the extra hour each night.

My approach, so far, was to wait until my probationary period was over, and then address it, showing I'm a team player, etc.

I've already enacted changes at the organization to assist in running smoother, etc.

However, I am not going to remain in a position where my subordinates are going to wind up earning more than I do. If they won't budge, it's their loss.
Good approach until the last line, but that's just my opinion. Don't focus on comparatives to other employees - only your own.

Ask for a post-probation review, should nicely coincide with an end of year review as well. Call it a 2014 strategy session.

Your calculations show you're investing a significantly larger amount of time and you're seeking compensation for that additional investment. Will you get the full 8K? Probably not, but I'd baseline on 6, assuming that's not greater than 15%.
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:24 PM
 
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That's what happens when you take salary. I had a salary position once, and I was working 12 hour days and it was expected.

I would wait till the month is up (and are officially told you are off probation) before bringing up anything about pay.

I'd also start looking TBH.

Though right now I'm an employee who makes less than temps, BUT I also have benefits, retirement, employee stock, and so on.
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Old 11-24-2013, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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You are stuck. If you complain about the hours/ comp/ workload (however you want to frame it) right after your probation is over, you will come off as a complainer. If you change jobs so soon, you will look like a job hopper. Take the one hour lunch and read a book. Tell someone who reports to you to cover while you take lunch.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:57 AM
 
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You are stuck. If you complain about the hours/ comp/ workload (however you want to frame it) right after your probation is over, you will come off as a complainer. If you change jobs so soon, you will look like a job hopper. Take the one hour lunch and read a book. Tell someone who reports to you to cover while you take lunch.
I agree with this. I would also consider whether I had the means to get something better or whether I was really looking for a dream job/scenario that likely didn't exist.

But, even if it turns out this job was a mistake, and/or they changed the deal on you after the fact, don't turn a level 2 mistake (taking the job) into a level 8 mistake (bailing too soon.) That will have implications far down the line on your resume and every other job you want to apply for going forward. I was in a situation similar to yours about 10 years ago. It was not only long hours, but a bad commute too. And yet, if you bail too soon, that looks REALLY bad in most fields--and often dissuades people from hiring you further down the line. I stuck it out for 2 years and then found something else.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:08 AM
 
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Just curious are you getting benefits as well like health care/paid vacation/optional 401k etc any other benefits....when you calculate hourly rates you also have to take into account any benefits you get offered that often hourly employees don't get.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:11 AM
 
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Just because you are afraid to stand up for yourself doesn't mean others are like that.

Some people still believe in principals.

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You should probably just be glad to have a job.

One more hour a day won't kill you. It's not like they're cutting your salary. If you could live on what you were making with less hours, you can still live on that money.

If they pull another stunt, it might be time to question them. But with such a short time under your belt, suck it up and be thankful.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Tampa FL
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You guys know you don't have to list every job on your resume, right? Why would you stay in a job for two years just for the resume boost if it sucks, that's ludicrous! Get something else and don't even list your short time on that job, you were unemployed and looking for work.

Also, I am not receiving any benefits.

I talked to some of my buddies last night and mentioned the situation. They stated since I was told in the interview, before I was hired, that the position was salary, I can't complain about that aspect now (since I knew before I accepted that it had changed)

They said instead of bringing up the "true hourly rate" I'm earning with my boss (which they feel would make me look like a petty whiner) I should shine light on my accomplishments through the probationary period, and discuss what can be done to bring my pay more in line with those accomplishments.

I also feel I should discuss how my boss sees the future of my job, how it will expand, how the compensation will be based/adjusted/reviewed as we move forward.

So I'll wait for the probationary period to end and see how things play out, but will keep my eyes out as well.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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You should probably just be glad to have a job...suck it up and be thankful.
That is exactly the reasoning behind so many companies taking advantage of employees nowadays. At what point do you draw the line?
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