Is anyone really unemployable? Are there different degrees of unemployable? Which is the most unemployable? (consulting, average)

[jerseygal4u]

Why would Number 1 be unemployable?

That could be me. I rarely talk to coworkers enough to have their personal numbers.

I do use past supervisors though when a question is asked about professional references

[oregonwoodsmoke]

Is anyone really unemployable? Absolutely. Go take a drive by a big homeless camp and you will see some of them: mental illness, drug or alcohol abuse, inability to function in a structured environment, and even occassionally a few who are simply determined not to work.

People who want to work and who can keep to a time schedule should be able to find something they can do and get paid for. There are a lot of different jobs requiring different skills and there are people who hire the handicapped.

I suspect that the most difficult people to place in a job are people who have deliberately done something to themselves to make themselves less desirable like the felon, sex offender, and the guy with crude or racists tattoos all over his face, and even those people can find jobs if they want to work.

However, I suspect that there are plenty of people out there that are not qualified for the job or salary that they think they deserve and if they want to work, they are going to have to settle.

[Highpointer]

Originally Posted by Sabiya

None of them are unemployable.
With the right training and guidance, all of the 9 people you described can do the work.

Originally Posted by hopefulone

If only training was still done.........Lots of employers don't train anymore.

How companies can fill the skilled worker gap -- start training them again!

[High Altitude]

Unless you have a severe medical or mental issue, it is hard to be 100% unemployable, but plenty of people are unemployable in industries and jobs they are educated, skilled and experienced at because of "red flags" that have nothing to do with whether or not they can do the job, but HR and hiring managers still base their hiring decisions on them.

[pittsflyer]

Someone who is handicaped (wheel chair, walked with a cane, etc) it would be really hard to be employed.

[pittsflyer]

Originally Posted by Highpointer

How companies can fill the skilled worker gap -- start training them again!

Yep, and alot of people dont need much training, just some training on what ever special equipment they might have.

[pittsflyer]

Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke

Is anyone really unemployable? Absolutely. Go take a drive by a big homeless camp and you will see some of them: mental illness, drug or alcohol abuse, inability to function in a structured environment, and even occassionally a few who are simply determined not to work.

People who want to work and who can keep to a time schedule should be able to find something they can do and get paid for. There are a lot of different jobs requiring different skills and there are people who hire the handicapped.

I suspect that the most difficult people to place in a job are people who have deliberately done something to themselves to make themselves less desirable like the felon, sex offender, and the guy with crude or racists tattoos all over his face, and even those people can find jobs if they want to work.

However, I suspect that there are plenty of people out there that are not qualified for the job or salary that they think they deserve and if they want to work, they are going to have to settle.

Considering a handicap person would have to find a white collar office job it would be tough even if they had the credentials. I am a professional engineer and I am not handicaped and have been looking for over 6 months. I could not imagine if I walked with a cane or was in a wheel chair, then you HAVE to be an engineer, you cant just go get what ever job if you are handicaped.

so they are not unemployable but they can only take ceritan jobs.

[Tyedyeguy]

Things that can make it near impossible to land a decent job:

1. Criminal history, especially felonies
2. Bad references (it can be hard to figure out which one is badmouthing you since most apps ask for 3 references)
3. Getting fired, if you can't cover it up
4. An employment gap over 6 months, if you can't cover it up
5. For tiny, niche industries where everyone knows each other, a nasty supervisor trashing you behind your back to others in that industry (you may have to abandon that line of work)

There are plenty of fantastic workers who have a difficult time due to any of the above problems. That's why I've always believed it is best to become self-employed if you can.

[Highpointer]

Originally Posted by pittsflyer

Someone who is handicapped (wheel chair, walked with a cane, etc) it would be really hard to be employed.

Why should that be a handicap that could preclude one from earning employment? For example, the late journalist Charles Krauthammer (1950 - 2018), who wrote for The Washington Post and appeared regularly on Fox News, was in his first year of medical school at age 22 when he became paralyzed from the waist down due to a swimming pool accident. Despite this setback, he completed his medical school studies and became a psychiatrist, before starting his work as a columnist and political commentator in his late 20's.

The Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, is also in a wheelchair, being paralyzed by being struck by a falling oak tree while jogging at age 26 in July 1984. He had just graduated from law school and was studying for his bar exam, but after a year of rehabilitation he passed his bar exam, became a licensed attorney who eventually was elected Attorney General and subsequently Governor of Texas.

Since Texas is one of the nation's two largest states and has produced three U.S. Presidents, it would not be considered unlikely to consider Gov. Abbott as a future contender for U.S. President. Of course, if he did become President, he would not be the first severely handicapped President - that would be President Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), one of history's most important U.S. Presidents.

[pittsflyer]

Originally Posted by Highpointer

Why should that be a handicap that could preclude one from earning employment? For example, the late journalist Charles Krauthammer (1950 - 2018), who wrote for The Washington Post and appeared regularly on Fox News, was in his first year of medical school at age 22 when he became paralyzed from the waist down due to a swimming pool accident. Despite this setback, he completed his medical school studies and became a psychiatrist, before starting his work as a columnist and political commentator in his late 20's.

The Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, is also in a wheelchair, being paralyzed by being struck by a falling oak tree while jogging at age 26 in July 1984. He had just graduated from law school and was studying for his bar exam, but after a year of rehabilitation he passed his bar exam, became a licensed attorney who eventually was elected Attorney General and subsequently Governor of Texas.

Since Texas is one of the nation's two largest states and has produced three U.S. Presidents, it would not be considered unlikely to consider Gov. Abbott as a future contender for U.S. President. Of course, if he did become President, he would not be the first severely handicapped President - that would be President Franklin D. Roosevelt (1882 - 1945), one of history's most important U.S. Presidents.

What is your point, a couple of people won the career lottery? Of course its not impossible but when you are in a wheel chair you either get the cushy office job or your homeless. There is no doing construction or what ever other crappy job capitalists tell us we have to do ... because your in a WHEEL CHAIR.