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Old 12-03-2007, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Hi all- what's up with employers falling in love with the "temp to hire" . Esp here in WI, companies here seem to use this for almost every job opening I see around these parts. They talk about about how much "flexibility" this gives both the worker and company, but all I've seen and even experienced is that companies abuse this and just keep a revolving door of "disposable" employees filling the position w/o having to pay benefits. It's just another way for already greedy companies to save even more $$ at the expense of the job seeker. As if it wasn't hard enough already finding a job that you can support yourself on in these parts This corporate greed thing is just getting worse

Has anyone else experienced that also, or is it just a WI thing?
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:07 AM
 
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Hi all- what's up with employers falling in love with the "temp to hire" . Esp here in WI, companies here seem to use this for almost every job opening I see around these parts. They talk about about how much "flexibility" this gives both the worker and company, but all I've seen and even experienced is that companies abuse this and just keep a revolving door of "disposable" employees filling the position w/o having to pay benefits. It's just another way for already greedy companies to save even more $$ at the expense of the job seeker. As if it wasn't hard enough already finding a job that you can support yourself on in these parts This corporate greed thing is just getting worse

Has anyone else experienced that also, or is it just a WI thing?
Temp to Hire is not a game. It's a way of reducing or limiting the exposure to the company from fees by the staffing agency.

If you are placed by a headhunter, the company pays the headhunter a 30% fee on top of your rate. If the company decides to make the employee perm after a year, the company has to "buy out" the headhunter, usually at a lump sum of 10-20% of annual salary.

In order to avoid this, companies like temp-to-hire or contract-to-hire because if the employee works out, they don't have to pay the big fees to the staffing firm or headhunter.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Hi all- what's up with employers falling in love with the "temp to hire" . Esp here in WI, companies here seem to use this for almost every job opening I see around these parts. They talk about about how much "flexibility" this gives both the worker and company, but all I've seen and even experienced is that companies abuse this and just keep a revolving door of "disposable" employees filling the position w/o having to pay benefits. It's just another way for already greedy companies to save even more $$ at the expense of the job seeker. As if it wasn't hard enough already finding a job that you can support yourself on in these parts This corporate greed thing is just getting worse

Has anyone else experienced that also, or is it just a WI thing?
No it's all over!! I've been trying to get two of my long term temps hired for over 1 year..it falls on deaf ears.
The company doesn't have to pay benefits and if they feel a person isn't a good fit they just call the agency to send someone else...yup revolving door
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Temp to Hire is not a game. It's a way of reducing or limiting the exposure to the company from fees by the staffing agency.

If you are placed by a headhunter, the company pays the headhunter a 30% fee on top of your rate. If the company decides to make the employee perm after a year, the company has to "buy out" the headhunter, usually at a lump sum of 10-20% of annual salary.

In order to avoid this, companies like temp-to-hire or contract-to-hire because if the employee works out, they don't have to pay the big fees to the staffing firm or headhunter.
That may be so in techy jobs or upper management but in the every day average worker there is no 10-30% fee

We pay the agency we use $3 per hour over the employee's salary..if we chose to hire after 3 months no fees
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Good posts!! Thanks! What I meant by "game" was that most companies in these parts rely on this then' boot out even a good worker in order to pay benefits,ten start over , saving the company money, but hurting good workers. So sorry, but I feel it IS a game that companies play to pad their bottom line, get their bonuses, but shaft good workers. COBRA, isnt cheap by any means.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:26 AM
 
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Good posts!! Thanks! What I meant by "game" was that most companies in these parts rely on this then' boot out even a good worker in order to pay benefits,ten start over , saving the company money, but hurting good workers. So sorry, but I feel it IS a game that companies play to pad their bottom line, get their bonuses, but shaft good workers. COBRA, isnt cheap by any means.
There are several reasons that companies hire temps instead of perm hires. One of them is the old mantra of the contractor - "Easy to Hire, Easy to Fire". If you are working as a temp or contractor - do not expect to be treated like a perm hire, because you are not. If you want a perm job - go get one - but don't think or act like a perm staffer while you are a temp.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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I'm trying to find a perm job, this is my point; SE WI companies rely very heavy on the temp to hire, in other words. there isn;t a whole lot else to choose from in these parts, EVEN for someone that has gone back to school.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:33 AM
 
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I'm trying to find a perm job, this is my point; SE WI companies rely very heavy on the temp to hire, in other words. there isn;t a whole lot else to choose from in these parts, EVEN for someone that has gone back to school.
All of coporate America likes temps and temp-to-hire, for a number of reasons. One being that it is hard to fire bad employees and this gives companies a 'trial' period. Another is that temps can be assigned to capital projects and their wages depreciated unlike a perm hire. Finally, companies are wary of staffing 'admin' jobs with perm hires since today's corporate staffer does 90% of the work an admin did 15 years ago as part of their regular job anyway.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Excellent points!! It just makes it hard on us workers that NEED perm placement, to get caught up in the "disposable" employee syndrome I guess. No one ever said life was fair.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Excellent points!! It just makes it hard on us workers that NEED perm placement, to get caught up in the "disposable" employee syndrome I guess. No one ever said life was fair.
well if it's any consolation us permanent workers do not appreciate the churn..the constant retraining of a new temp
we don't appreciate losing a good temp that we have spent many hours training because they finally found a permanent posistion
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