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Old 03-07-2014, 10:12 AM
 
Location: The City That Never Sleeps
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It's not illegal to ask anything at an interview, let's get real already. You can ask someone if he/she does porn. You can ask what shoe size someone is. You can ask about Facebook passwords. You can ask the "what color would you be if you were..." type junk. You can even ask someone if that person is willing to sleep with you or give you a _____. It's just not prudent to ask such things, or other things such as private financial info. If you ask the things I listed here or for private financial info, that says to me more about YOU, than it does about me. It's not illegal to ask offensive or stupid questions. Just because something is not illegal does not mean it's right or prudent.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:14 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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The new company I just got hired for asks for all previous w2s from other companies I worked for. They want 2008-2013 w2 forms, is this an odd request? Anyway I sent them 2008-2012 but I can't obtain the 2013 one (because I worked under the table but i can't tell them that).do you think that because I can't obtain the one form it will affect my employement? I already got hired this is like an after hire process...any input??
That information is way too personal. I'd tell them to shove their job where the sun don't shine, no matter how great it is. But then again, I don't play well with others
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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You know, my first response is to say "*********" to the requestor......on the other hand, it may be to verify that you actually did work there because a w-2 can be dummied up. Also, would it be an indication if they were legal or not ? But I-9's would show that.

I dunno, I feel the same way about this as I do when insurance companies base their premiums on your credit report.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Everyone here has a problem with companies bullying candidates with the threat of yanking an offer to obtain information they have no right to and seriously invade people's privacy for the purpose of forcing a decissive advantage in salary negotiations. It is like a car salesman or home seller demanding all your private financial information so they know exactly how high they can set the price before you are forced to walk away. In such a case I see no problem with lying. I've been lied to, treated badly, and cheated enough times to see most companies have no moral high horse to sit on.

As for worknumber they will not give out salary information unless the subject specifically goes to their website, gets a request PIN and then provides that pin to the inquisitor. They do not give it out willy nilly that is a common misconception.
You've obviously overlooked that the OP is already an employee.

Your car salesman analogy is a straw man argument, it has no relevance to the employee/employer relationship. And TheWorkNumber will give out salary history if you release it. The PIN business is for the employee's use when applying for credit. TheWorkNumber is owned by Equifax, so I wouldn't put much faith in their claims they hold that data private, but that's a different discussion.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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they are not, especially during the interview process. Sometimes they will ask that information as part of the EOE process or to gather survey information that the interviewers can't see. It's illegal to hire on basis of race, marital status or how many dependents you have!

yeah I'm pretty sure they know if he's a guy or girl by now. But this is a slippery slope. If recruiters are just asking for this stuff now even before the interview process and have been dealing with you via email then there you go. This is why people have stopped customarily having their photos on their resumes.

Companies (good ones, and the government) are not supposed to be hiring on the basis of appearance or gender.

as for the rest of what you say I suggest you search around and read some of this stuff. It's not illegal to ask for the w-2 but its pushing it pretty dang close and the company is taking a big risk in how it looks to the employee by asking for it in the first place.
You also seemed to overlook the fact that the OP has already been hired.

But you are also repeating the oft-told fantasy that it is illegal to ask any of the things you mentioned in an interview. It's not. It's foolish to do so, but it is not illegal. Companies may have policies that prohibit such questions in an interview (mine does) but again, not illegal.

Discrimination based on the answers to those questions is illegal. Asking the questions is not.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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Discrimination based on the answers to those questions is illegal. Asking the questions is not.
So what's the point in even asking?
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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So what's the point in even asking?

You want to know the answer. Obviously.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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You want to know the answer. Obviously.
If you're not allowed to discriminate based off of the information given, it really serves no purpose.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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So what's the point in even asking?
There is no point. But that's not the discussion. The discussion is that's it's not illegal, of and by itself, to ask such questions.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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There is no point. But that's not the discussion. The discussion is that's it's not illegal, of and by itself, to ask such questions.
So basically it's someone just being a hard on for the sake of it.
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