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Old 04-03-2014, 10:26 PM
 
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You are comparing beef brisket with oranges here. Separation of church and state should be followed in a work space.
I honestly didn't expect someone to be so against the constitution of the United States. I hope your unpatriotic views are not common.

Long live the first amendment.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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At my work all the booking is done through outlook, takes 2 clicks, 2 seconds max, and you can make them re-occurring.
Of course! That's a good point. I should have thought of that.

However, I still think the fact that the conference room is being used for something other than work could be problematic on a business standpoint (i.e. the room is needed for something work related, but it is busy because of something not work related).
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:04 AM
 
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You are comparing beef brisket with oranges here. Separation of church and state should be followed in a work space.
Wow.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:05 AM
 
Location: oHIo
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It can become a problem if participation is expected by management or supervisors or if people who do not participate are adversely affected in the workplace, for example, by being left out of projects, passed over for promotion, excluded from meetings, etc., or if management favors participants over nonparticipants.
I would assume this to be pretty much a given in such a work environment. Personally, I would be looking to get out of there, toot sweet. The Fundies I have encountered in my life quickly learn to hate me, uppity, secular humanist woman that I am....
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:07 AM
 
Location: oHIo
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extending a religious culture into the work place is just another form of social bullying that is being allowed to exist.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:10 AM
 
Location: oHIo
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People don't bring their beliefs to work? How does that happen? Do you just drop them off at the door on your way in and pick them up on the way out?

A person's religious beliefs (or not) are innate to that person - they can't be ignored just because a person is in an office building. I make my daily choices in life - both work and personal - based on my religious perspective.

If I'm a Christian that leaves my beliefs at the door, then it would mean the 10 Commandments are "off" - go ahead and lie, steal, cheat on your spouse, etc. but make sure it only happens at work where you don't bring your beliefs in with you!

It's one thing to push your beliefs on others who don't want to hear it at work - it's quite another to allow a social gathering for like-minded folks who are interested in gathering on their break time.

Separation of church and state means the government cannot dictate what religion people follow. It doesn't mean that they can't bring their beliefs into the office.
I don't want to hear people praying to their various gods while I am trying to eat my lunch. You are supposed to come to work to WORK, not to appease and cajole your imaginary friends.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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Out where I am presently, in West Texas, I have seen it every place I have worked. Since I have a different spiritual path, they always give me the flyers and such out of politeness, and earnestly tell me they are praying for my conversion. I think it's cute. They always save me back a cupcake or some banana pudding from their meetings, too!
DON'T EAT THEIR CUPCAKES

J/K---I find the "I'm praying for you" comments to be condescending and thinly veiled hostility. And I would be considered the a-hole if I replied, "I'd rather you didn't"....
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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I don't want to hear people praying to their various gods while I am trying to eat my lunch. You are supposed to come to work to WORK, not to appease and cajole your imaginary friends.
Well, just because you "don't want to hear people praying to their various gods while [you are] trying to eat [your] lunch" doesn't mean anything. It's irrelevant. There are a lot of things I don't want.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:35 AM
 
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What I don't like about Bible study at the workplace is that it's too public. I don't mean that religion should be kept under lock and key. I mean that it 'outs' people as either non-believers or non-Christians. You either participate in the Bible study to avoid social and professional consequences or you risk becoming alienated by co-workers and bosses who do attend the meetings. People may not want to work with you, bosses may not want to promote you (and you may even find yourself at the top of the list for being laid off or even fired), and you set yourself up as a target for proselytizing and workplace harassment about converting.

Even so, unless there are hundreds of people in the department and only a small fraction of them attend the Bible study, there should never be something like Bible study at work that forces people to reveal information about themselves that they may wish to keep private. I don't think anyone should be obligated to reveal their religious convictions - or lack of them - to anyone in the workplace, especially to management. Yet failing to attend Bible study will almost certainly generate no end of office gossip and speculation as to why you don't show up, and the ramifications can have very real consequences to you and your family.

While I don't know if it's wrong in the legal sense, I do find any company that allows a Bible study group (but not a Weight Watchers group) to be acting in a very unethical manner. Keep religion out of the workplace. I'm sure that those who attend these Bible meetings have their own churches they go to - so leave the Bible study there. Surely these people can survive without having to set up an impromptu pulpit whenever they go.
Everything you say here is 100% spot on. Thank you.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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Well, just because you "don't want to hear people praying to their various gods while [you are] trying to eat [your] lunch" doesn't mean anything. It's irrelevant. There are a lot of things I don't want.
Organized prayer meetings have no business in the workplace.

What would the reaction be if the non-believers among you started a study group featuring the writings of Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins? If you anti-theist cube neighbor had a big poster full of anti religion/non belief quotes hanging in their cube? (FWIW, I wouldn't find this appropriate in the workplace, either)

You are supposed to be working at work, JMO
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