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[...]I'm sorry but that might be your dream but not mine. I had a great aunt that worked putting together spark plugs on an assembly line doing the same 15 second action every day. I wouldn't wish that mindless work on anyone [...]
That's just an opinion. Do understand that many other people feel differently.
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[...]Not all women want to be housewives let alone move to Florida. Work is too ingrained in American society to just stop working and that's where the implied shame comes from. The reality is that people DO need to retire. Simply take up a hobby, travel, spend time with kids, grandkids, grow a garden, take a language etc.[...]
You missed my point by a mile and a half. I wasn't advocating for a paternalistic society or doing simple work, I was merely underlining the fact that back then a single working parent often made enough money to buy a house, go on vacation, send kids to college, et cetera. This was accomplished mainly because the pay ratio of "unskilled" vs. "skilled" labor wasn't as out of whack as it is today (among many other things).
Um no. Putin is about as far from a communist as one can get. I could argue that he's largely pacifist considering everything western countries have done in the past 15 or so years. Even when judged against the state of Israel Russia has probably been the largest victim of terrorism. Beslan school bombing, the opera house, the subway bombings etc. Most of this hardly reached the western press in the same ways as other events did.
I'm no fan of Obama but I wouldn't call him a paper tiger. Remember everything is economic now. Show me exactly what Russia could do if the EU admits Turkey as a member with one sole condition. Close the Dardanelles to Russia. No black sea trade means NO trade. Transiberian supposedly was supposed to link to Euro rail to connect under theory London to Paris to Berlin to Moscow to Beijing. No one would be that stupid to close that down.
With communism it means everyone works, everyone has health insurance, state ownership of everything etc.
If the state owned everything then there wouldn't be a russian stock exchange now.
We have to understand something there. There are many countries that frankly have oil and very little of anything else. So it is in the interests of say Iran and Russia to scare other countries or people to cause the price of oil to go up so they make more in revenue. China on the other hand realized in the 1970's that their policies failed to the point where trade was the only real option.
You are correct sir. I was labeling the wrong guy a communist.
Obama is clearly in the pocket of big businesses as much as anyone else these days, so he can't be a communist, and Putin is just another oligarch who enjoys running the show and not having to answer to anyone. Both are disappointments, but neither are communists.
Hands on occupations. Police, fire, EMT the blue collar trades of pipe fitter, truck driver, carpenter, electrician.
Service industry jobs, maid, front desk, bellmen, wait staff, bartenders, cooks.
Teachers, day care workers, nurses, doctors, lawyers.
there are plenty of "hands on" occupations out there from low level low skill to high level highly skilled.
Anybody here throwing the term "communist" around like it's the latest hit song... you are a communist only if you believe in workers being the owners of what they produce. In every way possible. Neither the USSR nor Russia had/have a worker-controlled economy, hence they were/are not communist, they were/are... pseudo democratic conglomerates of party/corporate interests.
Kinda like us gringos, freedom fighters spreading democracy one bomb at a time.
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