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Old 04-20-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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There is not any legal requirement for a resignation to be in writing. Tons of people simply don't come back, call and say they quit or walk off the job.
But I never quit my job, yes I admit I said I will be quitting soon and when he came up to me and said we are done with you I was in the middle of working. I never walked off the premises or anything like that and I intended on going to my shifts that I was scheduled. I spoke to another manager that I am close with and she recommended that I go to the labour board because the way he handled it was not right. Everybody there knew that I was going to be quitting soon, and everybody knew that I would be because of school. I just feel like it should have been handled differently and explained fully to me.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Yes, the "Formal" way to quit a job is to write a resignation letter. Informal way to quit your job is over the phone/email/tell your boss verbally you quit your job.

When it comes to unemployment hearing, it is pretty much OP's words against the manager's word. If OP admit saying "I will quit soon", it will not fly well with the unemployment hearing. Joking or not, "Soon" can be in 5 minutes, tomorrow, in 2 weeks, etc.

I doubt OP can get severance package, but do try to apply for unemployment anyway.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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But I never quit my job, yes I admit I said I will be quitting soon and when he came up to me and said we are done with you I was in the middle of working. I never walked off the premises or anything like that and I intended on going to my shifts that I was scheduled. I spoke to another manager that I am close with and she recommended that I go to the labour board because the way he handled it was not right. Everybody there knew that I was going to be quitting soon, and everybody knew that I would be because of school. I just feel like it should have been handled differently and explained fully to me.
But it wasnt "explained fully" to you, and that's not illegal. If you quit, you are not eligible for Unemployment benefits. If you were fired for not following company policy, you are not eligible for Unemployment.

So, you most likely would not get unemployment, IMO. Just drop it and find another job.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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File for unemployment.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:39 AM
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But it wasnt "explained fully" to you, and that's not illegal. If you quit, you are not eligible for Unemployment benefits. If you were fired for not following company policy, you are not eligible for Unemployment.

So, you most likely would not get unemployment, IMO. Just drop it and find another job.
True everyone is an at will employee, but if the manager asks you to leave then that is them firing you, in which case you can collect unemployment. Saying you are going to quit because of X is hearsay and would never stand up in front of a hearing board. I could very easily see the board asking the manager/owner if they fired the employee or if he is still an employee. Because the employee is confused and so is another manager then it would mean the employer was not formal about the dismissal and would likely be held accountable for negligence and ultimately unemployment. Fill out the correct paperwork and see what happens. Should this have gone down in a formal manner? Absolutely, but that doesn't change the situation. You need to learn from this as well. Work is not a place to make friends. The "friends" you make at work are just colleagues and some information should remain with you and no one else at all times.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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But it wasnt "explained fully" to you, and that's not illegal. If you quit, you are not eligible for Unemployment benefits. If you were fired for not following company policy, you are not eligible for Unemployment.

So, you most likely would not get unemployment, IMO. Just drop it and find another job.
I did not quit right that moment, he is a newer manager and the other managers had known about my situation with quitting soon. I had spoken with another manager and told him I would be putting my two weeks in soon because of my move and he said ok just let him know when. The other manager was totally fine with that, I'm not trying to get unemployment I will find another job and work to make money. I just want to file a complaint on the way it was handle because at my work place you need a written letter for your two weeks, or in some cases if you don't show up for a consecutive amount of shifts, or have a certain amount of write ups you are done. In my case that didn't happen, I have never missed a shift and I don't have any write ups.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:46 AM
 
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True everyone is an at will employee, but if the manager asks you to leave then that is them firing you, in which case you can collect unemployment. Saying you are going to quit because of X is hearsay and would never stand up in front of a hearing board. I could very easily see the board asking the manager/owner if they fired the employee or if he is still an employee. Because the employee is confused and so is another manager then it would mean the employer was not formal about the dismissal and would likely be held accountable for negligence and ultimately unemployment. Fill out the correct paperwork and see what happens. Should this have gone down in a formal manner? Absolutely, but that doesn't change the situation. You need to learn from this as well. Work is not a place to make friends. The "friends" you make at work are just colleagues and some information should remain with you and no one else at all times.
But manager can argue since OP said "I will Quit *soon" so he/she should not be @ the station anymore. From my understanding, many companies will not even let you go back to your office/cube/station after you quit. Any personal belongings will be mailed to the person's home address.

Even if you submit a letter telling your employer you will leave your job in 2 weeks, your employer can let you go the next day.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:47 AM
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But manager can argue since OP said "I will Quit *soon" so he/she should not be @ the station anymore. From my understanding, many companies will not even let you go back to your office/cube/station after you quit. Any personal belongings will be mailed to the person's home address.

Even if you submit a letter telling your employer you will leave your job in 2 weeks, your employer can let you go the next day.
Yup, just happened to me, but I also asked for it. They let me take my items and say goodbye to people.
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Old 04-20-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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But manager can argue since OP said "I will Quit *soon" so he/she should not be @ the station anymore. From my understanding, many companies will not even let you go back to your office/cube/station after you quit. Any personal belongings will be mailed to the person's home address.

Even if you submit a letter telling your employer you will leave your job in 2 weeks, your employer can let you go the next day.
Can I not argue the fact that he came up to me and said clock out and leave we are done with you, because in my eyes I feel like that stands for firing if he told me to leave and that they are done with me. He never said since you said you are going to quit soon we have decided to let you go now. I would understand in that case but since that was not how it was dealt with I feel like I was fired. I already called this morning and talked to someone and I am put as terminated in the systems. So to me that is being fired.
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Old 04-20-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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Can I not argue the fact that he came up to me and said clock out and leave we are done with you, because in my eyes I feel like that stands for firing if he told me to leave and that they are done with me. He never said since you said you are going to quit soon we have decided to let you go now. I would understand in that case but since that was not how it was dealt with I feel like I was fired. I already called this morning and talked to someone and I am put as terminated in the systems. So to me that is being fired.
You can file complains or unemployment. Is a he said she said things and people can interpret the situation differently.
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