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Old 05-30-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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I have a question that I sure would like some help with. Can my employer work me a full 8 hour shift until midnight and then say that it is a new work day after that to work me another full 8 hour shift? That is 16 hours straight. It was not always a full shift afterwards, but very often, it was at least a few hours afterwards, and when I asked, I was told that the workday ends at midnight, so I had to do it. Or they would tell me to go home for a few hours and come back. Is there any requirement in California for minimum hours in between a shift?

Thank you for any help that you can give.

Jeremy
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:08 PM
 
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It's shady, but legal

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“Workday” is defined in the Industrial Welfare Commission Orders and Labor Code § 500 for the purpose of determining when daily overtime is due. A workday is a consecutive 24-hour period beginning at the same time each calendar day, but it may begin at any time of day. The beginning of an employee’s workday need not coincide with the beginning of that employee’s shift, and an employer may establish different workdays for different shifts. However, once a workday is established it may be changed only if the change is intended to be permanent and the change is not designed to evade overtime obligations. Daily overtime is due based on the hours worked in any given workday; and the averaging of hours over two or more workdays is not allowed.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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Yeah.. That's California's law, at least.

I had to do a buttload of reprogramming of our systems because of CA labor laws and them paying overtime if you work more than 8 hours in a calendar day.

If the workday starts at 4am, and you work from 8pm to noon.. No overtime. But, they have to be consistent about the day start time.
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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If everyone has such varying views on it never go to the space industry for a job.

I was a satellite flight controller for years. It is not a 7-3 job though many thought so when going in. A satellite orbits the earth 24/7/365 and is working the entire time. Someone has to be at a console to communicate with with it every 90 minutes or so.
Shifts are usually 8 hours but weekends tend to be 12. The aspect most don't like is rotating shifts so everyone can work a normal schedule at least one week a month. that shift would be 7am - 3pm, afternoon shifts- weekdays only - are 3-11, and nights are 11pm-7am. Day shifts during weekends are 7am-7pm and night shift is 7pm-7am.
You get anywhere from 3-5 days off between shifts and when you go back you are on a different shift. This ensures you 2 weekends off a month as well as more days that one normally would on a regular job.
Some facilities work one shift only and i have had afternoon only shifts at times for varying reasons, usually because of seniority. My last job had me working from 5 pm - 4am. It sucked and was cool because I would work 7 days and take off 5.

The best thing about the job is lots of overtime until one is salaried and lots of time off after working a lot. All shifts got compensated 10% for off shift hours, even while working overtime. There was no exempt status for that. You are never under pressure unless there is a problem with a satellite and you then have to correct the problem, recover any data atttributed to it and write a report about it. Other than that you have a lot of goof off time doing software maintenance and writing documentation.
3 hour lunch? If it fits the schedule, why not? I was usually shift supervisor and if you were where you were supposed to be when I wanted you there you were good to go.
The tech field is where I point kids with the apptitude and I emphasize a strong background in math. I never point them to the space industry unless that is what they desire as it is not for everyone. I usually suggest engineering of sorts - how many fields does that encompass?
I always suggest some technical writing as well because one needs to document everything in the technical world.
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Old 05-31-2014, 01:15 AM
 
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Well that is quite annoying... but I guess understandable.... thank you all for the help... I appreciate it very much!
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Old 05-31-2014, 10:47 AM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Jeremy,

I'm in the aerospace industry and even though I'm in AZ, our division HQ is in CA.

We go by CA rules and company policy.....so......we get paid DT for any hours worked over twelve consecutively.

Heck, I'm on AWS.......I start a new WEEK Fridays at 10:00am.
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Old 06-01-2014, 03:01 AM
 
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I would LOVE to work in the aerospace industry! They hiring out there? lol
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Old 06-01-2014, 03:25 AM
 
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A couple of links addressing the issue.Seems if your employer is playing games to avoid paying overtime you might have some recourse.


DLSE - Glossary

Employers Group: Chapter 19
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