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I can see how it's possible to negotiate if you were a middle or upper level manager from a Fortune 500 company for these low wage positions, but not if you're a student or recent college graduate with no experience.
That's the key. IF you have leverage you can. If you have hardware experience because you are a handyman, you COULD do that (going off the Home Depot reference.) However if we are talking about people who have equal skills, you have to worry about pricing yourself out of the job because someone WILL take the $8.00 an hour wage.
I can see how it's possible to negotiate if you were a middle or upper level manager from a Fortune 500 company for these low wage positions, but not if you're a student or recent college graduate with no experience.
I am still in college, and was at the time. People need to learn how to communicate effectively. Unlike other college kids, I actually work, and have experience.
I am still in college, and was at the time. People need to learn how to communicate effectively. Unlike other college kids, I actually work, and have experience.
Then you had leverage, not everyone else does. It's not about communication, you had the experience to leverage. If you don't it's onto the next candidate until you find someone you don't need to raise wages for.
Then you had leverage, not everyone else does. It's not about communication, you had the experience to leverage. If you don't it's onto the next candidate until you find someone you don't need to raise wages for.
Yea it was manual labor experience, most people do not want to use a pallet jack, and move office furniture for $9/hr.
You know damn well that $7.26 counts as "above minimum wage". What matters is the category of people that make lower than a living wage. They're mostly adults, not youths with prospects of better jobs. That segment of our economy is huge, and you can't change economic realities through individual anecdotes.
Not in California. Our minimum wage is higher than that. Still, what does that matter? What you are saying is that people are accepting wages that are low. They are saying it is OK to get a job that pays $8 or $10 when they need $28 to live on. Really though that is not the employers problem. Many jobs pay a higher wage. Many people can afford to live. Why is that? Is it because they are lucky? is it because the Gods have blessed them more than someone else? No that is not it at all. The people that are getting more money have a quality education. They didn't go to school to get a degree in English Lit or History. They realized that specific degrees would have a better pay out and they ran to those fields. Look at Nursing. It is an easy degree to get. You don't have to go to school for years and years to get it. Chances are you will need a Bachelors degree. Still, it is something that is attainable. Many places, California included, will help you financially. Some hospitals will reimburse RN's for the cost of their education. You graduate and boom $33 an hour. After 6 months $36 an hour, after a year you can move up further and make from $39 to $45 an hour or more. I know Nurses making over $100,000 a year. I know one that makes $176,000 a year.
I can see how it's possible to negotiate if you were a middle or upper level manager from a Fortune 500 company for these low wage positions, but not if you're a student or recent college graduate with no experience.
Anyone can negotiate anything. It does not matter who you are.
Anyone can negotiate anything. It does not matter who you are.
You can always negotiate and you can always fail.
Especially in retail if you demand $10 an hour and they have 5 other candidates that are willing to take $7 an hour most likley you just negotiated yourself out of a job. This is becoming more and more the case except for highly skilled and rare skillsets or high level management. Otherwise in many cases companies during the phone screen or application even demand to know your salary expectations and if you are demanding $40k and a few others are demanding $30k you can guess where your application will end up.
Especially in retail if you demand $10 an hour and they have 5 other candidates that are willing to take $7 an hour most likley you just negotiated yourself out of a job. This is becoming more and more the case except for highly skilled and rare skillsets or high level management. Otherwise in many cases companies during the phone screen or application even demand to know your salary expectations and if you are demanding $40k and a few others are demanding $30k you can guess where your application will end up.
Especially in retail if you demand $10 an hour and they have 5 other candidates that are willing to take $7 an hour most likley you just negotiated yourself out of a job. This is becoming more and more the case except for highly skilled and rare skillsets or high level management. Otherwise in many cases companies during the phone screen or application even demand to know your salary expectations and if you are demanding $40k and a few others are demanding $30k you can guess where your application will end up.
If that is the case then the market will not bear the higher pay. Negotiating is more than that though. Part of a negotiation could be that you want to make the $40,000 within a certain amount of time and you will show your value to the company within that amount of time. Explain where you plan on being in 1 to 5 years as part of the negotiating process.
If that is the case then the market will not bear the higher pay. Negotiating is more than that though. Part of a negotiation could be that you want to make the $40,000 within a certain amount of time and you will show your value to the company within that amount of time. Explain where you plan on being in 1 to 5 years as part of the negotiating process.
That's typically not how it works (typically being the operative word).
Many sizable employers these days already have pre-determined grades in place (similar to the government) when setting wages and salaries for their employees.
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