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Old 06-09-2014, 08:24 AM
 
Location: The Sunshine State of Mind
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It's good work if you qualify. It's a terrible waste of taxpayer money.

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a young woman has tapped into a home-based money-making operation that netted her and her three sisters more than half a million in taxpayer dollars since 2006.

And they did it with the blessing of the state.

All four had been in-home child-care providers. Collectively they have 17 children. For years, the government has paid them to stay home and care for each other's children.

Nothing illegal about it under the rules of Wisconsin Shares, the decade-old child-care assistance program designed alongside Wisconsin's welfare-to-work program.
Cashing in on Kids | A Watchdog Report - Child care loopholes lead to easy money
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Obviously the OP has never done child care in their home. Those are not 8-hour jobs, they are 10 hours at least.

The money paid is not just for the labor (and I repeat, labor) involved but for the cost of maintaining (and insuring) the home (anyone who has had several young children at home can attest to the wear and tear), and providing snacks.

$45,000 / yr is a bargain.
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Obviously the OP has never done child care in their home. Those are not 8-hour jobs, they are 10 hours at least.

The money paid is not just for the labor (and I repeat, labor) involved but for the cost of maintaining (and insuring) the home (anyone who has had several young children at home can attest to the wear and tear), and providing snacks.

$45,000 / yr is a bargain.

You didn't read the article, did you?
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:18 AM
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Wow, 45k/yr, unbelievable.

There are a number of people out there that work way harder for their money and make nowhere near 45k/yr.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Nell Plotts View Post
Obviously the OP has never done child care in their home. Those are not 8-hour jobs, they are 10 hours at least.

The money paid is not just for the labor (and I repeat, labor) involved but for the cost of maintaining (and insuring) the home (anyone who has had several young children at home can attest to the wear and tear), and providing snacks.

$45,000 / yr is a bargain.
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You didn't read the article, did you?
Clearly not.

Simmons only claims to be working p-t but the state is paying for 75 hours a week of care for her 5 kids at a yearly cost of $66,716. I am glad not to be a Wisconsin taxpayer.

What a racket. The entire family is in on it.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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What I find the most interesting is that publishing that article is going to give many more people the idea, so unless the state changes the laws really quick it's going to get much worse. There is always someone smart enough to take advantage of a loophole in a poorly written law, unfortunately many of the elected leaders are not smart enough to write laws without loopholes, or perhaps it's even been intentional to help friends/family at the taxpayer expense.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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What I find the most interesting is that publishing that article is going to give many more people the idea, so unless the state changes the laws really quick it's going to get much worse. There is always someone smart enough to take advantage of a loophole in a poorly written law, unfortunately many of the elected leaders are not smart enough to write laws without loopholes, or perhaps it's even been intentional to help friends/family at the taxpayer expense.
I noticed the article goes back some time, so it's not current. It's possible the law there has now changed.
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Old 06-09-2014, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I noticed the article goes back some time, so it's not current. It's possible the law there has now changed.
I am pretty sure that the law has been changed. I am not sure what happened to the women in the article but a number of people in Wisconsin ended up in prison and had substantial fines or needed to repay all of the money back to the state.
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Old 06-09-2014, 02:51 PM
MJ7
 
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Reminds me of the woman that won a million dollar lottery in NY state, at the time she was on food stamps. Several months after she won, you guessed it, still on food stamps. The state had to write a law stating if you won more then x amount in a lottery you are no longer eligible for food stamps.

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Old 06-09-2014, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I am pretty sure that the law has been changed. I am not sure what happened to the women in the article but a number of people in Wisconsin ended up in prison and had substantial fines or needed to repay all of the money back to the state.

Ahhh, thank you for the update.

I don't think anything happened to the women in the article, as it stated what they were doing was perfectly legal since they found a loophole.

Interesting how people who aren't bright enough to get 9-to-5 jobs somehow seem to be brilliant at finding loopholes.
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