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Wow, our abysmal college educations must be why so many foreigners come to America to attend college. Yup.
You make no sense. The fact that we have great graduate programs doesn't make up for our undergraduate programs.
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Originally Posted by greywar
Really? Yeah I had some bad classes in college for software engineering, but only at the entry level. once I got past the first level classes my education was incredible.
It's not just two companies. The entire tech industry is in need of competent computer scientists.
I agree with you 100% that we shouldn't be importing them (in the long term). Instead, as a nation, we should start producing adequately skilled people in larger numbers. However, it hasn't been a priority for us, unfortunately. We seem to feel perfectly fine producing low quality graduates in large numbers.
What do you qualify as a computer scientist? Someone who has a BS degree in computer science? An MS? There are very rigorous CS programs across the nation that graduate thousands of excellent students every year. Many of them are actually overqualified for the jobs that are available. I see very few jobs where I live that are explicitly looking for "computer scientists." When they are looking for a computer scientist, the required education listed is normally a PhD and there are plenty of PhD candidates in the pipeline.
What do you qualify as a computer scientist? Someone who has a BS degree in computer science? An MS? There are very rigorous CS programs across the nation that graduate thousands of excellent students every year. Many of them are actually overqualified for the jobs that are available. I see very few jobs where I live that are explicitly looking for "computer scientists." When they are looking for a computer scientist, the required education listed is normally a PhD and there are plenty of PhD candidates in the pipeline.
Only a quarter of those Computer Science PhD candidates are Americans. The rest of the class is made up of foreigners.
I think they may have been aware of my presence on these forums and my harsh criticisms of their hiring and b2b practices. A part of me is relieved to be out of that toxic environment but now the search for a new job begins...
I think they may have been aware of my presence on these forums and my harsh criticisms of their hiring and b2b practices. A part of me is relieved to be out of that toxic environment but now the search for a new job begins...
Really sorry to hear this, Sargon, but it's telling that part of you is relieved due to the toxic environment.
I wish you the best of luck in finding a new job. Please keep us posted.
Thanks guys. DFW is brutal. I don't have an extensive IT background so I doubt I can get another job like this without going through another one of these shady staffing companies. I'm just going to try and go out to networking events and find things that are somewhat related like technical writing.
I'm also considering throwing in the towel in regards to white collar work and apprenticing in a skilled trade.
They may seem competent on paper... but once you get to the interview process, it becomes very evident. This is why silicon valley hires the majority of American hires from only a small number of schools. We only have a small number of schools in the U.S. that product competent computer scientists. (We're not talking about IT, here. Since IT is an easier discipline, we are able to produce a fair amount of IT workers.)
Why do you insist on denigrating American citizen STEM/IT workers? Please explain.
Did you read post #104 in this thread? Somehow I doubt it.
Thanks guys. DFW is brutal. I don't have an extensive IT background so I doubt I can get another job like this without going through another one of these shady staffing companies. I'm just going to try and go out to networking events and find things that are somewhat related like technical writing.
I'm also considering throwing in the towel in regards to white collar work and apprenticing in a skilled trade.
Consider it a good thing. While excellent in technical areas, their management style leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully you find a better opportunity.
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