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So you disagree that it is the males role to approach women? I think most evolutionary biologists would disagree with you. Go out to a bar or any event and look around, it is the males that approach the females not the other way around. You find men approaching women creepy???
dude, work isn't a bar...
people "flirt" at bars cuz they have liquid courage in them cuz they know they look and feel stupid otherwise, so having drinks makes it less awkward.
Yes, man are traditionally the ones to approach women, however I think women have a subtle way to "clue us in" if she's interested in your flirtations.
If a woman is at ur job and strictly does her job and is professionally courteous toward everyone, I dont think that woman wants men flirting with her. She's there to do her job.... play nice and go home.
The previous generation has been so litigious that now everything we do has to go through a "Can I be sued for this" filter. It has reached a point where men are nervous approaching women, and women are noticing it. This isn't the first girl Ive heard mention this.
Well, that's one way of looking at it.
You need to understand that the reason "the previous generation has been so litigious" is to retrain people like you who actually believe they are programmed to flirt, making it impossible to just go to work and WORK.
You're just gonna have to get better at reading signals, I guess.
This thread reminds me of the (slightly cleaned-up) rule of thumb "don't crap where you eat." It sounds like most of your coworkers, with the exception of the one you mentioned, are smart enough to realize that most workplace romances are high-risk, low-reward, and have the potential to be awkward as hell if it doesn't work out.
You need to understand that the reason "the previous generation has been so litigious" is to retrain people like you who actually believe they are programmed to flirt, making it impossible to just go to work and WORK.
You're just gonna have to get better at reading signals, I guess.
You are grossly exaggerating my point. Im talking about courtship, not harassment. I don't walk around the office flirting with women. My point is that men are no longer sending out subtle cues for those women that DO think its ok to date coworkers. Don't act like theres no such thing because my company is full of couples that met here at work, got married, are happy etc. I thing one thing you guys are ignoring in my disclaimer is I work for a very LARGE company, Im not talking about an office of 5 people where you have to see said person all day every day if it doesn't work out.
The previous generation has been so litigious that now everything we do has to go through a "Can I be sued for this" filter. It has reached a point where men are nervous approaching women, and women are noticing it. This isn't the first girl Ive heard mention this.
I was talking to a retired woman who worked on factory floor for several years. When she started (I think in 1960s) they had no HR dept & women would be harassed non-stop by cat calling & objectified constantly. By previous generation I think you mean women who fought for their rights & people who supported them. Companies also benefit from this filter as it affects productivity of their employees. New relationships are great at first but every couple hits a rough patch & its better to keep these type of conflicts away from work.
That said, if a guy is REALLY into a girl, he would approach her no matter whats the workplace policy.
And you are grossly misunderstanding why you aren't entitled to send out (what you think are) subtle cues to women you're interested in AT WORK.
The fact that there are thousands of people in the company makes no difference. It only takes one person to make a problem for another person, and being able to hide it among thousands of other employees doesn't make it ok.
Do you really not see the problem with your thread?
I know many couples who met at work. People in my family as well as people I worked with. After school, it is the second most likely place one will find their future spouse.
I think this woman is inventing some kind of false logic for the purpose of her own ego and none of these men would be interested in her in any setting.
And you are grossly misunderstanding why you aren't entitled to send out (what you think are) subtle cues to women you're interested in AT WORK.
The fact that there are thousands of people in the company makes no difference. It only takes one person to make a problem for another person, and being able to hide it among thousands of other employees doesn't make it ok.
Do you really not see the problem with your thread?
Of course not. I said that you are not ENTITLED to flirt at work. Do it all you want, but it's not your constitutional right.
You don't see the problems with your post??
She said one thing, and you took it and RAN with your theory about guys being afraid of lawsuits.
Maybe she just isn't attractive to many guys there. Why didn't you send one of your subtle signals to her?? She was sitting right there, complaining about not having a boyfriend ...
Of course not. I said that you are not ENTITLED to flirt at work.
You don't see the problems with your post??
I never said that I was and youre proving my point. The point is that men are afraid to send subtle cues at work, cues that let a female know that he would like to date. You admit that people meet at work and date, how do women know a guy is interested if he isn't sending cues. My point is these days it is in the girls court to suggest that she likes a guy. You are proving the kind of attitude that makes guys afraid to approach girls. If a guy really likes a girl that he knows from work, THIS is the kind of attitude he is facing/afraid of.
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