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Old 09-17-2014, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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While I don't like it, the avg salesperson there make 150-225k so I won't lose sleep.
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Old 09-18-2014, 12:27 AM
 
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How do you get that IBM is hurting their employees? Are you so brainwashed that you believe that every single corporation and every single person in charge of a corporation is out to just screw with their employees?

Let's think about this mister analyst, a company cuts some of their employee's workload by 20% while only cutting their pay 10%, while they tell those people they have 5 months to be able to perform their job at a mandatory level.
Deliberately missing the point? It isn't about training!
How did one division suddenly realise that a whole swathe of their employees needed so much training? (And how many senior managers have been sacked for doing such a bad job in not monitoring the situation better?)
Are all the other divisions fine?
How is it that everybody magically needs exactly the same amount of time to be brought up to speed (Smarter Company anyone? No analytics to bring to bear to identify individual needs?)
It is a way of trying to massage the bottom line for that one division.

IBM will lose no revenue from this move "boo hoo, we haven't got enough Americans to do the work as they are all training, we need to bring more low paid outsourcers in instead"
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:14 AM
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@ axby: I take it you're with GTS/IBM? I was in SWG until 2009. It's hard for outsiders to grasp what is going on inside the company nowadays.
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Old 09-18-2014, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Just for the record, the post that is being replied to did not come from me.
Yeah sorry about that... bad editing.
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Old 09-18-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Let's think about this mister analyst, a company cuts some of their employee's workload by 20% while only cutting their pay 10%, while they tell those people they have 5 months to be able to perform their job at a mandatory level.
In this type of occupation, training IS part of the job. It IS something you should be getting paid to do. So no, their workload is not being cut. Their billable hours are, but that is most likely because they've been forced to bill more hours in the past at the expense of training.
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Old 09-18-2014, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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My employer cut pay for certain employees by moving staff to Florida.
Yeah Florida pays 25% LESS than everyone else (NO STATE TAX), BUT THE COST OF LIVING IS THE SAME as it was in Denver! Cheapo employers here they want EVERYTHING FOR NOTHING! Keep on voting these idiots into Congress and nothing will change!
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