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If you're going to work for $10 an hour you may as well never bothered getting a degree. I always thought people went to college so they could get jobs that pay well.
Some people have no choice. There's too many people with degree and too few job opportunities. If the economy ever turns around people who have degrees are still going to have a leg up on those who don't. Unless you own your own business there's only so far you can go without an advanced education.
One idea I agree with is that Millenials might not be good to hire for low-level jobs because they're always going to be angling to get a better job (within the company or by job hopping or rejoining the educational system to get an advanced degree). That's totally true, because we all were brainwashed into believing that our destiny is 6-figure desk jobs that "use" our college and are fun and exciting. We're going to spend our entire 20s competing for the good jobs that are available. Don't expect us to be reliable workers if the job isn't good. We all expect to work at Google.
Ummm, isn't all of this true of ANYONE? Anyone who has the knowledge/skills/education to get a better job is going to be angling for a better job. Why would you think it's only millenials?
What I have observed about some (not all) millenials is an attitude like you have, that's it's all about you. It's not.
This is an extreme you're trying to put forth. $10/hr is 19,200/year. In my area as a single person 24% of that is gone in taxes which leaves you at a little over $1200 a month. I have no idea where you reside but that's not something I aspire to make in order to sustain myself.
Most of my generation don't want 6 figure salaries from the beginning but we do want to be able to get somewhere comfortable in life.
Accepting $10 an hour right out of college is fine because chances are the person is living with parents and doesn't have many expenses at that point in their life. And then they can set goals so they can get a better job in the next year or so rather than just waiting.
Unfortunately, a bachelor's degree is the new high school diploma. You cannot really expect to make a whole lot of money or secure a comfortable and clean office and 9 to 5 job without one anymore. And recently, it seems like the bachelor's is still not enough.
Unfortunately, a bachelor's degree is the new high school diploma. You cannot really expect to make a whole lot of money or secure a comfortable and clean office and 9 to 5 job without one anymore. And recently, it seems like the bachelor's is still not enough.
The Associates is the new highschool diploma in my opinion.
One idea I agree with is that Millenials might not be good to hire for low-level jobs because they're always going to be angling to get a better job (within the company or by job hopping or rejoining the educational system to get an advanced degree). That's totally true, because we all were brainwashed into believing that our destiny is 6-figure desk jobs that "use" our college and are fun and exciting…..
So was I. I was born in 1954. The last thing i wanted to do was to work in a factory. So I stayed in college, went to graduate school, *started in an entry level job that did not pay well*, and eventually things worked out more or less as planned.
Young people, if they have real talent and aren't just socially promoted through college, will have the same experience.
America has moved away from loyal employees and companies that rewarded loyalty. It is a dog eat dog world. No employer will knock on your door and plead with you to work. Everybody and every company is expendable.
Having a sheepskin can help - but one has to work to make it work. You have to start someplace and that could very easily be at the bottom. Your degree comes with no history/work record - that is up to perspective employees. The competition is fierce - outsourcing, immigration (legal and illegal), robotics and technology. Everybody wants to replace you and everybody wants to replace your company. We really have no game plan for the future - we could use leaders that show us direction.
The key, to anybody working today, is to go out and work - start someplace. Document your successes, be on time and willing to work hard. And never stop looking for a better job. Use the one that you have to build your resume - do the job to the very best of your ability.
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I don't believe in any of those hasty generalizations about any generation, not just Millennials. It takes away the individuality from a person and usually applies the worst traits to that generalization to the point where all of that generation are deemed at fault for the few who are behaving that way.
Wow, this is one of the best posts I've ever read on City-Data.
Having a sheepskin can help - but one has to work to make it work. You have to start someplace and that could very easily be at the bottom. Your degree comes with no history/work record - that is up to perspective employees.
That really depends. Internships do act as work history because work was performed and it does provide a record. I could argue for the opposite that as long as at least within the private sector they don't recognize let alone respect experience that the validity is always in question. whereas with a degree the validation is because the records are open.
That really depends. Internships do act as work history because work was performed and it does provide a record. I could argue for the opposite that as long as at least within the private sector they don't recognize let alone respect experience that the validity is always in question. whereas with a degree the validation is because the records are open.
Most college grads do not have the internship experience and then they run up against this: BS degree in a related field and 0-2 years experience preferred, or 2 - 5 years equivalent work experience. But we are quibbling. It all boils down to how well you can sell yourself and some people do a better job than others. Sometimes you just have to start low and work up the ladder.
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