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Old 10-03-2014, 09:06 AM
 
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Most companies do not offer that from the start that I have ever seen anyway. You may want to see if that is the norm in your area or is this just from your employer? It could be part of being competitive. If everyone is doing it then all the other employers may be following that course of action.
It is reasonably common in college administration. I started with 5 weeks of vacation, plus more sick leave, plus typical holidays. Most of the employers I was interviewing with offered something comparable.
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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It is reasonably common in college administration. I started with 5 weeks of vacation, plus more sick leave, plus typical holidays. Most of the employers I was interviewing with offered something comparable.
Im thinking it may be common within an industry or line of work lets say. You mention that it is common in College administration. I have never heard of having that much time in healthcare or other places that I have worked. For someone looking for that kind of benefit I would guess they would need to look into industries or fields that would provide such a thing. Another way to go about it is in the job offer stage. Something I will say that I have seen in healthcare is with the C suite. Many places offer part of the compensation placed in a retirement account. Our CEO has over $300,000 a year of his income placed into a retirement account. It is part of his employment package. If another company were to lure him away he would walk away from that money. many places do that to keep the talent in house. He did walk away from a position as a COO at another healthcare organization to come here as President and CEO for our organization. When he did that he left a lot of money on the table to make the move. Part of why these C suite packages are formated in the way that they are. My organization had to offer him money to make up for what he would lose.
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Old 10-03-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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I've worked at three universities, including an Ivy, and there was no 5 weeks off for admins to start. You get the extra week from Xmas to New Years, but otherwise it was always 3.
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Old 10-03-2014, 07:39 PM
 
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I work in government and I started with 12 days vacation, 3 days of "admin leave" that do not roll over, and 15 days of sick. Sick time rolls over indefinitely, although cashing out at retirement is capped. After 5 years, you get 15 days vacation, 12 years you get 20 days vacation, and 20 years you get 25 days vacation. That's in addition to 11-12 holidays a year. So after 20 years you literally have around 10 weeks off a year if you were to use all your sick days every year. Crazy. Next year is my fifth year and I'm looking forward to those extra three days. Union membership has its perks.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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I've worked at three universities, including an Ivy, and there was no 5 weeks off for admins to start. You get the extra week from Xmas to New Years, but otherwise it was always 3.

Unless "administration" means the Pres or VPs, no one in administration at the universities I have worked at started with 5 weeks either.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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My 5 weeks is considered PTO. We do not have dedicated sick days or dedicated vacation days. Therefore, we have the potential to use literally 5 weeks for pure fun vacation time. It's actually 23 days of PTO, but that's almost 5 weeks....close enough. But that's what I get from day one. It doesn't matter that sick days are combined, because if you're not sick, you're totally entitled to use all 23 days as FUN vacation time.

A pool of time is not common in my area, although all of the hospitals seem to have gone to the pool system. Typical in my area is vacation, sick days and holidays. Sick days are to be used when you are sick--not for whatever you want to use them for.
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Old 10-04-2014, 03:57 AM
 
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I've worked at three universities, including an Ivy, and there was no 5 weeks off for admins to start. You get the extra week from Xmas to New Years, but otherwise it was always 3.
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Unless "administration" means the Pres or VPs, no one in administration at the universities I have worked at started with 5 weeks either.
I have worked at 5 colleges/universities, including an ivy, one flagship state university, and another whose name everybody recognizes. My vacation packages were

2 weeks, plus sick leave (not admin, this was an hourly position)
3 weeks, plus 4 personal days, plus sick leave (manager level)
24 days, plus 2 personal days, plus virtually unlimited sick leave (120 days/year) (director level)
4 weeks, plus 4 personal days, plus a minimal number of sick days (director level)
24 days, plus 2 personal days, plus sick days. (Director, then AVP level).

During an interview period a couple of years ago I talked with a number of colleges/universities, and most of the offered something in the 5 week ranges. Usually 21-23 vacation days, plus a few personal days.

The ones that did not offer 5 weeks or so we're generally in low COL areas.
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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I am in the accounting profession and have lived in the coastal Northeast (NY/CT) my entire life and career. I have ALWAYS gotten 3-5 weeks of vacation time per year. But whenever I seek jobs in low cost areas such as FL, AZ, the Midwest, the South, etc., the recruiters tell me that the standard is 2 weeks and that I'd be lucky to get 3 weeks. My current job is a staff level accounting position and I get 5 weeks of PTO per year.

But 2 weeks? Are you freekin kidding me? Why is this the case? I mean, I've been trying to look for jobs in low cost areas of the country, but what good is it if I won't get more than 2 weeks of vacation time? I would never accept a job that gives less than 3 weeks per year. What a joke.
I'm the guy who responded that you shouldn't put down unions.

That aside, many of us are hear that this is Socialist and that is Socialist. Does anyone think that the "liberal media" attaches the S word when it might cost their corporate masters money.

Europeans led by Christian Democrats and Social Democrats get at least 30 days of paid time off every year. Here's the breakdown:

Germany 34 paid days off
Spain 34
France 31
Italy 31
Belgium 30

Australia and New Zealand have 28 and 30 days off respectively.

Florida congressman Alan Grayson can't even get a week of paid leave for Americans out of committee in the House.

What's wrong here?
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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I am in the accounting profession and have lived in the coastal Northeast (NY/CT) my entire life and career. I have ALWAYS gotten 3-5 weeks of vacation time per year. But whenever I seek jobs in low cost areas such as FL, AZ, the Midwest, the South, etc., the recruiters tell me that the standard is 2 weeks and that I'd be lucky to get 3 weeks. My current job is a staff level accounting position and I get 5 weeks of PTO per year.

But 2 weeks? Are you freekin kidding me? Why is this the case? I mean, I've been trying to look for jobs in low cost areas of the country, but what good is it if I won't get more than 2 weeks of vacation time? I would never accept a job that gives less than 3 weeks per year. What a joke.
Austria is the winner of the time off survey with 35 paid days off. Her is what that looks like:
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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I am in the accounting profession and have lived in the coastal Northeast (NY/CT) my entire life and career. I have ALWAYS gotten 3-5 weeks of vacation time per year. But whenever I seek jobs in low cost areas such as FL, AZ, the Midwest, the South, etc., the recruiters tell me that the standard is 2 weeks and that I'd be lucky to get 3 weeks. My current job is a staff level accounting position and I get 5 weeks of PTO per year.

But 2 weeks? Are you freekin kidding me? Why is this the case? I mean, I've been trying to look for jobs in low cost areas of the country, but what good is it if I won't get more than 2 weeks of vacation time? I would never accept a job that gives less than 3 weeks per year. What a joke.
Here is what vacation time looks like in the USA:

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